Like I said - 'B' listers had self interest 'IF' they covered up for him. NOW- the same 'B' listers-again may have self interests- to elevate them to 'B+' listing..
TV people live in a very strange fickle world .
Jimmy Saville
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Like I said - 'B' listers had self interest 'IF' they covered up for him. NOW- the same 'B' listers-again may have self interests- to elevate them to 'B+' listing..
TV people live in a very strange fickle world .
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So either Rantzen tried to do something (investigate or report him etc. thereby believeing the rumours) and was blocked, or she also colluded. She isn't saying which, which puts her in a particularly bad light in all of this.
I must admit I wasn't suprised by these allegations, as one hear jokes/rumours, but that in no way makes him guilty. No matter how unlikeable he may have been.
Here is an article by the documentary maker:
http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/?q=system/files/Exposure - The Other Side of Jimmy Savile.pdf
Apologies if its already been put up.
So either Rantzen tried to do something (investigate or report him etc. thereby believeing the rumours) and was blocked, or she also colluded. She isn't saying which, which puts her in a particularly bad light in all of this.
I must admit I wasn't suprised by these allegations, as one hear jokes/rumours, but that in no way makes him guilty. No matter how unlikeable he may have been.
Here is an article by the documentary maker:
http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/?q=system/files/Exposure - The Other Side of Jimmy Savile.pdf
Apologies if its already been put up.
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By all accounts, he should be called Jimmy Sovile...
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No no no.
My work colleague has been most affected by it, (himself a victim of abuse from childhood as I later discovered), but he hadn't the temerity to do anything. He literally kissed my feet when I launched the process but, sadly, it was all but swept under the carpet.
Not bigging myself up, but I was never in fear of him because let's just say I knew he was a full of sh1t
All I was saying is that for some or most people it takes an incredible amount of courage to do anything and even then it may come back to bite you. (Don't expect other witnesses to come forward or back you up either; there are no guarantees).
In other words don’t count on the system to work for you and it's that which is most likely to put people off in my experience; that and the difficulty getting evidence or proof in the first place.
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It wasn't just the girls who are now brave enough to come forward that he intimidated. He also managed to get his way with more powerful people who we would have expected to do something about it.
As I said early on, my source (and I have forgotten who it was, it was over 25 years ago, I heard it on a ward round or something) told me Stoke Mandeville didn't do anything because they didn't want to lose his charity money. They just booted him out of the nurses home and it seemed both sides thought that was as far as it needed to go. Gambiccini (sp) now says that he made the same threat to a national newspaper and so they didn't publish. Now we have Rantzen telling us that she suspected he was a kiddie fondler, but did nothing. If you were a builder who put a dodgy roof up her program would be all over you like flies on sh!t, but a paedophile who was in her circle she did nothing. She set up that Childline FFS, why didn't she call the 800 line herself with the confidential info.
So it's vitally important that this is investigated to the full. The powerful people who apparently allowed Saville to continue his habit need to be dragged through the dirt and it looks Saville should be too.
I remember being shocked when he got his knighthood, if I had heard about his behaviour and I'm just a nobody, then wtf were those in high places who knew what he was up to thinking?
As I said early on, my source (and I have forgotten who it was, it was over 25 years ago, I heard it on a ward round or something) told me Stoke Mandeville didn't do anything because they didn't want to lose his charity money. They just booted him out of the nurses home and it seemed both sides thought that was as far as it needed to go. Gambiccini (sp) now says that he made the same threat to a national newspaper and so they didn't publish. Now we have Rantzen telling us that she suspected he was a kiddie fondler, but did nothing. If you were a builder who put a dodgy roof up her program would be all over you like flies on sh!t, but a paedophile who was in her circle she did nothing. She set up that Childline FFS, why didn't she call the 800 line herself with the confidential info.
So it's vitally important that this is investigated to the full. The powerful people who apparently allowed Saville to continue his habit need to be dragged through the dirt and it looks Saville should be too.
I remember being shocked when he got his knighthood, if I had heard about his behaviour and I'm just a nobody, then wtf were those in high places who knew what he was up to thinking?
It's a proven fact- that when a woman gets to her 40s- her state of mind changes .
How many men do we know that when his wife gets into her 40s she suddenly goes ga ga ?.
How many men do we know that when his wife gets into her 40s she suddenly goes ga ga ?.
It seems there are more women coming forward now, looks like we've only seen the tip of the iceberg so far.
As chapeau says there should be a lot of people answering some awkward questions about this scumbag.
As chapeau says there should be a lot of people answering some awkward questions about this scumbag.
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I can’t remember the figure but I know only a small percentage of women actually pursue cases of rape. The reasons are varied from not being believed, not being supported, the shame or stigma of it, proof and like I’ve said already, fear.
Years ago, I had a friend come knocking on my door late at night, early morning, absolutely beside herself with grief. She didn’t, (couldn’t), tell me why but it became evident during the conversation when she phoned her mother from my place without her actually using the word. If I could have traced the ****head I would have cut his balls off myself but my point is how do you prove these things beyond doubt?
As said, there isn’t a video camera following us around. Well, this country is getting damn close to it but that’s a separate topic...
Years ago, I had a friend come knocking on my door late at night, early morning, absolutely beside herself with grief. She didn’t, (couldn’t), tell me why but it became evident during the conversation when she phoned her mother from my place without her actually using the word. If I could have traced the ****head I would have cut his balls off myself but my point is how do you prove these things beyond doubt?
As said, there isn’t a video camera following us around. Well, this country is getting damn close to it but that’s a separate topic...
This is purported to be an out take from a series of Have I got news for you. I don't know if it's genuine or not, if it is maybe it will come out.
edit Apparently it was a hoax. Though if it was, it was obviously done by someone who knew what this character was like.
edit Apparently it was a hoax. Though if it was, it was obviously done by someone who knew what this character was like.
It`s called the menopause - in men it`s called misogyny
Havent followed this and can't be arsed to read.
TLR, is he a kiddy fiddler, or did he chase 14 year old skirts.
Not that chasing 14 year old skirts is a good thing, but it's not really paedophilia.
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R, is he a kiddy fiddler, or did he chase 14 year old skirts.Not that chasing 14 year old skirts is a good thing, but it's not really paedophilia.
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Some girls at 14 can look pretty adult, others are still babies. From what I've seen and heard now ,I'd say he was a kiddy fiddler big time. And a predatory one at that.
look up Hebephile & Ephebophile (attraction to early and late pubescence)
Also please don't tell me you don't steal glances at <16 year old schoolgirls in their uniforms.
cus if you claim that you are either a liar/woman/eunuch.
Couldn't be less interested.
There's a big difference between casting an admiring glance at a young girl and putting your hand up her skirt or your tongue down her throat.
Or using your celebrity/money/experience to tempt her into a vulnerable position and then taking advantage with no regard to her feelings.
Couldn't be less interested.
Reading is hard.
Also a big difference between that and paedophilia.
Or using your celebrity/money/experience to tempt her into a vulnerable position and then taking advantage with no regard to her feelings.
But once they turn 16 this is OK?
No?
So what difference does it make if they are 14 or 16.
Like I said, it's not nice or good, but it's a world away from chasing pre-pubescent.
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