LED Bulbs - Warm Appear Cool White

[morqthana]

Hey... my pint of Kronenbourg is already 95.4% water.

I'm sure it didn't used to be.

EDIT. Yup. It didn't.

Kronenbourg 1664 is a golden pale lager with an alcohol by volume (ABV) of 5.5% in continental Europe and 5.0% and 4.6% for the UK market.

In 2023, Heineken's license to produce Kronenbourg 1664 in UK , was purchased by The Carlsberg Group, in doing so the ABV% was reduced from 5% to 4.6%.

It also doesn't use the right hops.

This sort of thing is why I refuse to buy foreign beers made under licence in the UK.

 

[flameport]

It has 4 round cells in the bulb.

Probably RGBW, so that multiple colours can be selected, and it's set to 'white' which is all of the colours plus the white one.

 

[BF]

Many thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate all the suggestions.
On the back of this, I bought a LAP trailing edge dimmer switch and some LAP 2700K GU10 LED bulbs.
I've installed the dimmer switch and BINGO, got the warm light effect that I've been after.
I have tried it with the original 3000K LED bulbs and the 2700K and both provide the same effect, with the former being brighter at full power as to be expected.
I didn't think for one minute it could be the dimmer switch and would probably have tried more and more bulbs!!
Thanks again.

 

[ericmark]

The control does not actually say what the colour temperature is. The colour is a different control. As to the button, I tried a few times to set it up, still not sure what I did, but it works. One is able to group items, I do group into rooms, so I can turn the whole room off. However, trying to get all bulbs to match, has not really worked unless all the same make.

Use a different app, and same lamp has a different look this is using the Google Home App. The first two were with the Smart Life app. I basically, do as I am told, if she who must be obeyed says we need voice control, then we have voice control. I really don't see the problem with manually controlling with my phone.

What my parents would make of todays' controls, I don't know. But it's no good going half-hearted into new technology, the day of the waveform chopping dimmer switch is over, as to labour-saving, the time I spend sorting it out, it only saves labour for SWMBO, it causes me no end of headaches trying to get it to work.

Latest for me, is SWMBO wants an outside light on the shed, for me, it is down to, can I get away with a plug in device, or does it needing hard-wiring?

But tomorrow at least, back to old fashion technology, down to the local heritage steam railway where I volunteer, but my days of using steam tables is well gone, it's down to cutting the grass to make it look nice for the gala this weekend.

 

[plugwash]

What gives?

"white LEDs", at least at the cheaper end of the market are usually made by taking a blue LED and combining it was a phosphor coating that converts a portion of the narrow spectrum blue light to a broader spectrum yellow, which mixes with the blue to produce a "white".

There are other variations which give a better CRI, but unless you specifically buy "high CRI" LED products, the basic "blue LED plus yellow phosphor" is what you are likely to geti.

Different colour temperatures are acheived by varying how much phosphor is used.

I'd guess that for some reason in the lights in your pub the LED element and the phosphor have different radiation patterns. Possiblly from being located different distances behind a lens. So you get different proportions in the mix depending on what direction you look from.

 

[morqthana]

But tomorrow at least, back to old fashion technology, down to the local heritage steam railway where I volunteer, but my days of using steam tables is well gone, it's down to cutting the grass to make it look nice for the gala this weekend.

 

[ericmark]

This weekend, likely some small replicas, Sentinel etc. As Shrewsbury so close, but not seen a steam lawn mower.

 

[opps]

I'm sure it didn't used to be.

EDIT. Yup. It didn't.

Kronenbourg 1664 is a golden pale lager with an alcohol by volume (ABV) of 5.5% in continental Europe and 5.0% and 4.6% for the UK market.
In 2023, Heineken's license to produce Kronenbourg 1664 in UK , was purchased by The Carlsberg Group, in doing so the ABV% was reduced from 5% to 4.6%.

It also doesn't use the right hops.

This sort of thing is why I refuse to buy foreign beers made under licence in the UK.

Yeah, in my local, the landlord warned me that it would be changing at some point. From memory, the kegs changed around October last year. To be honest, the new taste is more acceptable than when Stella changed. That said, I still prefer the EU 5% stuff that some corner shops sell. I do dislike the new Kronenbourg glasses though. My landlord has accommodated me by keeping the old glasses.

 

[morqthana]

To be honest, the new taste is more acceptable than when Stella changed.

And where did it change?

Why is the UK version of Stella Artois so much worse than that enjoyed on the Continent? - Swift Half

The two beers are put head to head and beer expert Simon Martin give his pro opinion on what went wrong.

swifthalf.com

Another example of why not to buy foreign beers made under licence here. The big brewers who do this care for nothing, absolutely nothing, about the quality of their products, but one thing, one thing only - squeezing as much profit as they possibly can out of the customers they treat like dirt.

 

[ericmark]

I drink Scottish Heavy, I brew it in Wales, and the kits are made in Suffolk, so nothing to do with Scotland in spite of the name.

I tried many kits, including Coopers an Australian beer, and the lack of cooling means in summer the Coopers yeast is better, but I just stop brewing in the summer, then I can have a beer festival to celebrate first brew after the summer recess.

I will enjoy a pint on the weekend at the steam gala, and I would think likely purple moose or similar, would not expect to find a larger on tap, but none of this has anything to do with lighting, I have found a problem with photography with some lighting, in the main where there is a mixture, I can correct if too blue or too red, the same way as our eyes do, but when there is a mixture of LED and mercury vapour lighting, it is near impossible.

The same applies with LED lights, I have two makes in my Ikea Billy book case, it can look good, but no way can I get all the lights to the same colour, so I simply don't try.

 

[opps]

And where did it change?

Why is the UK version of Stella Artois so much worse than that enjoyed on the Continent? - Swift Half

The two beers are put head to head and beer expert Simon Martin give his pro opinion on what went wrong.

swifthalf.com

Another example of why not to buy foreign beers made under licence here. The big brewers who do this care for nothing, absolutely nothing, about the quality of their products, but one thing, one thing only - squeezing as much profit as they possibly can out of the customers they treat like dirt.

TBH, I can't remember when Stella changed. I would guess about 2 or 3 years ago. I first started drinking it in the late 80's. It had a very slightly pepper taste which, at the time, complimented the cigarettes that I smoked. Back then, it was one of the few 5% lagers available in west London pubs, and according became known as "wife beater". It was 5.2% in cans.

The only other 5% lager that I can recall was Holsten Export. Most of my local pubs were either Grand Metropolitan or Fullers. The former had better lagers. BTW- Holstein Pills in bottles was 6.5%.

Kronenbourg is still my go. In Fuller's pubs, I buy Asahi. Nice and crisp but £7.50 for a pint, and I have only ever seen it in Fullers pubs (they purchased the Fullers Chiswick brewery when Fullers divested themselves from brewing). My prefered local, The Shanakee, Ealing Broadway, W5 London, a Kronenbourg is £5. Guiness, reputed to be the 3rd best pint of Guinness in west London is £4.90. Can't stand the stuff though. Went on the really boring Guinness tour in Dublin years ago. Got the to bar at the end, asked for a lager and was told that they only had the alcohol-free Kaliber... I opted for a coke.

 

[aveatry]

Probably RGBW, so that multiple colours can be selected, and it's set to 'white' which is all of the colours plus the white one.

The whole of my house is fitted out with between 5700 and 6500k bulbs - clean white light.

 

[morqthana]

EDIT - apologies, my calendar seems to have developed a fault...

TBH, I can't remember when Stella changed. I would guess about 2 or 3 years ago. I first started drinking it in the late 80's.

I first had it, in the UK, in the mid-70s. late 60's.

 

[aveatry]

I first had it, in the UK, in the mid-70s.

Yes it used to be nice but the alcohol reduction has killed it - same with Tyski and Hobgoblin Ruby- used to be 5.4 in bottles but is now 5 and totally changed the flavour..

 

[morqthana]

Yes it used to be nice but the alcohol reduction has killed it

All I know is, from my first encounter, that 6-8 pints of the real imported stuff, at lunchtime, ending up as lunch, instead of food, doesn't half bggr up your afternoon, esp. at the age of about 15-16.