Lucy Letby found guilty.

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Sentencing not expected for a day or so however surely this must be a whole life tariff?

Neonatal nurse Lucy Letby is GUILTY of murdering babies

Lucy Letby, 33, who will die behind bars, preyed on babies small enough to fit in the palm of her hand by injecting air into their blood at the Countess of Chester Hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[transam]

dare say there will be some type of appeal ?

 

[Brigadier]

And BBC are reporting that doctors raised concerns over her, as far back as 2015.

And those doctors were reported as having to apologise, for raising those concerns.

Some heads should roll over this.

 

[blup]

Any establishment is difficult to challenge, the nhs is one of the worst. Genuine whistleblowers are forced out of their jobs, would be whistleblowers are intimidated into silence

Blup

 

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Sentencing expected within the next day or so to allow for usual background legal discussions.

 

[Mottie]

"For Dr Brearey and his fellow consultants, the deaths of the two triplets were a tipping point. That evening, Dr Brearey says he called duty executive Karen Rees and demanded Letby be taken off duty. She refused.
Dr Brearey says he challenged her about whether she was making this decision against the wishes of seven consultant paediatricians - and asked if she would take responsibility for anything that might happen to other babies the next day. He says Ms Rees replied "yes".

She has surely got to be sacked and never employed in the NHS ever again.

 

[Mottie]

Any establishment is difficult to challenge, the nhs is one of the worst. Genuine whistleblowers are forced out of their jobs, would be whistleblowers are intimidated into silence

Blup

Anyone who works in or knows someone that works in the NHS will know this to be 100% true.

 

[Brigadier]

"For Dr Brearey and his fellow consultants, the deaths of the two triplets were a tipping point. That evening, Dr Brearey says he called duty executive Karen Rees and demanded Letby be taken off duty. She refused.
Dr Brearey says he challenged her about whether she was making this decision against the wishes of seven consultant paediatricians - and asked if she would take responsibility for anything that might happen to other babies the next day. He says Ms Rees replied "yes".

She has surely got to be sacked and never employed in the NHS ever again.

Investigated for gross negligence, more like.

Suspend - investigate - act based on findings.

(Although KR might claim that she did "investigate", however fleeting it may have appeared, or been).

 

[Mottie]

Although KR might claim that she did "investigate", however fleeting it may have appeared, or been).

Perhaps she can explain what she meant about taking responsibility for anything that might happen to the babies in care of LL.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Anyone who works in or knows someone that works in the NHS will know this to be 100% true.

Organisations cover themselves (in terms of the legal and public-facing perspective) by saying they have robust whistleblowing policies in place and anyone deciding to raise concerns will be fully supported. As you've touched on, the reality for anyone whistleblowing will usually be completely different. Having said that, you would like to think if you raised concerns about a colleague you thought was doing something heinous or extremely significant in another way (e.g. fraud) and it was proved to be true, your colleagues would be fully supportive. The challenge is having the courage to be the one to speak out, often much easier said than done. And of course during the interim period (from raising a concern to it being concluded) more than a few would no doubt look on you as 'the grass.'

 

[Brigadier]

Perhaps she can explain what she meant about taking responsibility for anything that might happen to the babies in care of LL.

Would a large salary, pension, and "off with stress" be an option?

 

[Vinty]

Would a large salary, pension, and "off with stress" be an option?

These days there is no penalty for failure in any state run institution.

 

[transam]

"For Dr Brearey and his fellow consultants, the deaths of the two triplets were a tipping point. That evening, Dr Brearey says he called duty executive Karen Rees and demanded Letby be taken off duty. She refused.
Dr Brearey says he challenged her about whether she was making this decision against the wishes of seven consultant paediatricians - and asked if she would take responsibility for anything that might happen to other babies the next day. He says Ms Rees replied "yes".

She has surely got to be sacked and never employed in the NHS ever again.

She should be jailed for gross negligence imo

 

[transam]

Nowt will come of any enquiry tbe usual waffle

We will learn from our mistakes BS

They will take there tax payer funded pensions and early retirement

 

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It does seem to be the way on occasion. I can't recall the specific story however a couple of years back an NHS board was found to have many failings, some of them significant. I also can't recall if the chief exec resigned or was sacked. However I remember reading she had since secured another position that was equal if not greater than her previous position.

Same happens in private business. CEO presides over a failing company then moves on to another CEO position.

I'm not excusing anyone of anything, however you have to conclude the new employers of such people are considering them in the round and of course there could be a degree of protectionism of each other within that sphere.