Mail versus Guardian

[anobium]

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mail-...r-claims-over-katie-hopkins-column-confusion/

Anybody read this, particularly the cartoon aspect, and if so what do you think.

 

[ntb]

The Guardian is a vile piece of leftist trash. It can't die soon enough. I'm not a fan of the Mail either but the Guardian is rotten to the core.

 

[EFLImpudence]

The Mail is a vile piece of rightist trash. It can't die soon enough. I'm not a fan of the Guardian either but the Mail is rotten to the core.

1 all.

 

[JohnD]

is somebody suggesting that the Ragmail and the stun are anti-Muslim?

Upon my soul. Who'd have thought it.

"Sun forced to admit ‘1 in 5 British Muslims’ story was 'significantly misleading'"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...adline-significantly-misleading-a6953771.html

 

[anobium]

is somebody suggesting that the Ragmail and the stun are anti-Muslim? my soul.
Who'd have thought it.

OK point taken, but isn't the Guardian being just as bad to associate the recent attack in London on anybody who reads the Sun or Mail via a cartoon. So around 6million readers are all stupid racist etc etc.
Just imagine the uproar if he had used a cartoon to implicate all Islamists in some other attack.
Look what happened in Paris.
Don't get me wrong I think that all newspapers have got to be read with a pinch of salt and anybody who believes his or her paper is unbiased is living in cloud cuckoo land

 

[EFLImpudence]

So around 6million readers are all stupid racist etc etc.

Probably less than six million.

A fair few of them probably don't know.

 

[anobium]

Probably less than six million.

A fair few of them probably don't know.

Like all the Guardian readers are whiter than white, come on, get real, or are you saying its OK categorize any group via a cartoon.?

 

[transam]

They were going on about this Guardian v daily wail caper on the radio this morning ?

journalist (?) from each paper banging on about how pp the other one is & all the porkie pies & mis-information they trot out

dunno never took much notice tbh , so I cannot offer any useful comment. (thats a first )

who owns the Guardian ? & does he or she pay tax in the UK ?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Like all the Guardian readers are whiter than white,

What has whiter than white got to do with it? Poor choice of phrase.

come on, get real, or are you saying its OK categorize any group via a cartoon.?

I'm getting lost.
Are you saying it is wrong to draw/make a cartoon against Mail and Sun readers for reading what they read?

You asked if all six million readers of Mail and Sun were stupid racists and I tried to be charitable.

Do you think there are only six million stupid racists in Britain?
Perhaps we will have to separate stupid and racist unless you were excluding intelligent racists and the stupid who weren't racist.
I don't know how many are (actually) racist or just stupid.

I presume you are misusing the word racist for those who hate muslims.



If anyone thinks that the Welsh nutter ran over those people in Finsbury Park because he was a racist then he did not target them because they were muslim.
I think it is reported that he was shouting that he hated muslims so he may not have been a racist.

 

[Ihavenojob]

If anyone thinks that the Welsh nutter ran over those people in Finsbury Park because he was a racist then he did not target them because they were muslim.
I think it is reported that he was shouting that he hated muslims so he may not have been a racist.

Not a terrorist, possibly a racist, but seems more like a bloke whose had a meltdown and "gone postal".

 

[JohnD]

It's interesting that the Mail describes a cartoon as "“.. so sick and disgusting –"

The Mail, which published this sick and disgusting cartoon?

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And the Mail claims it has nothing to do with the Mail Online?

 

[SirGalahad]

Daily Mail is not a newspaper as much as the opinion of Paul Dacre. Its fiction.

You may not agree with the Guardian but they report facts and their opinion of the facts. The DM is straight up a disgusting paper with no interest other than furthering Paul Dacre reductive views and a horrible man.

 

[Doggit]

You may not agree with the Guardian but they report facts and their opinion of the facts. The DM is straight up a disgusting paper with no interest other than furthering Paul Dacre reductive views and a horrible man.

See typical political bias. Dacre's the editor, and will do the editorial section, and he'll also have a degree of influence on the slant of the paper, but that doesn't mean that what gets reported is lies.

And the Guardian and the independant will do things the same way; they'll follow the editroial slant, and print the stories that follow his beleifs, and like the Mail, they'll put it across in a manner that gets the story out they way that they want to.

So do either of them tell the truth, yes, in a manner; and do either of them tell lies, not sure; but do they twist things, more than likely.

At the end of the day, it's us that are looking for our views to be verified.

 

[SirGalahad]

See typical political bias. Dacre's the editor, and will do the editorial section, and he'll also have a degree of influence on the slant of the paper, but that doesn't mean that what gets reported is lies.

And the Guardian and the independant will do things the same way; they'll follow the editroial slant, and print the stories that follow his beleifs, and like the Mail, they'll put it across in a manner that gets the story out they way that they want to.

So do either of them tell the truth, yes, in a manner; and do either of them tell lies, not sure; but do they twist things, more than likely.

At the end of the day, it's us that are looking for our views to be verified.

Daily Mail has the notoriety of being banned as a reliable source by Wikipedia.

They just lost a recent high profile case where they alleged Mrs Trump worked for an escort service. So that is a lie - plain and simple.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/daily-mail/

Mostly False.

 

[ntb]

Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source itself.