Mandelson

Not all of us. Some focus on the network of powerful people that are being protected by the failure of U turn Trumpf to fully the release the files in accordance with his election pledge
Trump is another issue altogether i agree alot of his public rants are a worry, but some i see his logic albeit flawed.

I really wouldn't be surprised if this latest release of Epstein files was deliberately aimed at giving Starmer a hard time after he defied him over Iran, swalk from Trumps team.
 
I noticed Wes streeting attacking estate agents and parking wardens this morning..

Wes was mentored by Mandy and his briefings against the PM had all the hallmarks of Mandy’s poisoned pen, so would be ironic if he did well out of this. In the twisted world of political spin it’s entirely possible that he’s being advised right now by Peter.
 
Trump is another issue altogether i agree alot of his public rants are a worry, but some i see his logic albeit flawed.
Trumpf is protecting his powerful allies and political donors who don’t want to implicated in Epsteen scandal (whether or not they have done wrong), but there are legitimate questions about what Trumpf new.
I really wouldn't be surprised if this latest release of Epstein files was deliberately aimed at giving Starmer a hard time after he defied him over Iran, swalk from Trumps team.
I think that’s unlikely, although he or probably could have justified redactions if he wanted to on grounds of national security or criminal investigation. But I don’t think the documents registered with his team as being of any significance.
 
I noticed Wes streeting attacking estate agents and parking wardens this morning..

Oh dear i see our Wes said this not long back...I don't think thats the best thing to say in hindsight.

Frost then asked for clarification that despite the revelation of the new documents, the UK Government is not considering axing Mandelson from his ambassador role.


“No, I don't think we should regard everyone as guilty by association,” Streeting replied.


He added: “I think that the important thing is, Epstein's victims receive the justice now and the platform now to tell their stories, to receive the hearing and the justice that comes from transparency and being now able to speak out in a way that.
 
Also not wanting to blow my own trumpet and im sure many of you know this already..the Andy Burnham camp smell blood...

We all know what Starmer etc's strategy was today, difuse the tories, volunteer to give this information so a ballot isn't needed, but we will just tuck the sensitive information under a caveat called 'national security' which will protect us.
Angela etc smells this and has stuck the knife in already to try n stop that happening.
Do they REALLY think we were born yesterday? This is getting ****ing embarrassing. I want to go up there myself, Starmer give it up ffs, put your hand up be honest, you cant just wiggle out of everything with your years of legal training by gaslighting your way out of everything.

From the equally corrupt BBC:

The scale of anger on display among Labour MPs today isquite striking.

Led by Angela Rayner,(of all people a relative saint here lolzZZ!) one after another they are making it clear they will not back the government only releasing documents that do notaffect international relations or national security.

"We stood on a promise to do politics differently thistime," the Labour backbencher Matt Bishop told the Commons. He added hecannot support a position he said "risks further eroding trust".

The extent of fury appears to have taken the government bysurprise. And it looks like they will have to back down and agree to give acommittee of MPs a role in deciding which documents are published.

But the risk for the government is this spills into widermutiny.

We heard Angela's mentor Corbyn say the same earlier too... this is a big labour split going on.


Off to get a bigger bucket of popcorn.
Edit to add i just see a new headline about Epstein/Andy wanting a 3some, this is getting out of hand, i don't think we need to be posting this sh't on the bbc.
 
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All gone a bit OTT imo

Bloke was sacked not in the party any more told porkies to starmer picture of him in his underpants

All the hoo ha in parliament

MPs out raged / shocked / mad as hell bla bla

Get a grip ffs and move on

Poland reckon that Epstein could have been a Russian spy ?? Have launched an enquiry into the caper ??? Po tins name appears 3000 (?) times in epsteins fikes
 
So is McSweeney going to jump before he’s sacked?
He’ll side step and blame a colleague but yes he will resign if stammer tells him too. Damage to the Labor brand is dealt with more swiftly than the Tory’s ever did
 
Poland reckon that Epstein could have been a Russian spy ?? Have launched an enquiry into the caper ??? Po tins name appears 3000 (?) times in epsteins fikes
Pootin’s investment manager they’re calling him, he trafficked hundreds of Russsian women. The world order conspiracy theorists are having a field day.
 
Pootin’s investment manager they’re calling him, he trafficked hundreds of Russsian women. The world order conspiracy theorists are having a field day.

Which in turn feeds into this Russian interference in trumps first term election success ?

Poo tin feeding money to Epstein to funnel into trumps election fund ???

No end to these conspiracies ????
 
Which in turn feeds into this Russian interference in trumps first term election success ?

Poo tin feeding money to Epstein to funnel into trumps election fund ???

No end to these conspiracies ????
Who knows, but Trumpf must be at little uneasy atm
 
Which in turn feeds into this Russian interference in trumps first term election success ?
Observers, decent folk and those who hold the truth dear, are hoping (praying) the fat orange rapist does not call a halt to his Pulitzer law suit folly, because the defence team have just asked for all the unredacted files relating to the Muller enquiry - and not the highly redacted partisan MAGA version, that was fed to the morons.
 
All gone a bit OTT imo

Bloke was sacked not in the party any more told porkies to starmer picture of him in his underpants

All the hoo ha in parliament

MPs out raged / shocked / mad as hell bla bla

Get a grip ffs and move on


Hum, leaking financial information to a banker in the USA?

Very dodgy to say the very least
 

Blair era (1998)

  • Mandelson resigned as Trade and Industry Secretary after it emerged he’d taken an undeclared £373,000 loan from a fellow minister. - Basically lies and dishonesty proved he couldn't be trusted.
Brown era (2001)
  • Under Gordon Brown, Mandelson resigned again,this time as Northern Ireland Secretary.
    Basically lies and dishonesty proved he couldn't be trusted.
Starmer (2025)
Mandelson 'Found' to be best mates with Epstein. (which was common knowledge for some time in many circles.

Sorry but if Starmer and co genuinely say they are shocked he lied and didn't realise he couldn't be trusted, on top of trying to manipulate this enquiry they should all go down.
 
Observers, decent folk and those who hold the truth dear, are hoping (praying) the fat orange rapist does not call a halt to his Pulitzer law suit folly, because the defence team have just asked for all the unredacted files relating to the Muller enquiry - and not the highly redacted partisan MAGA version, that was fed to the morons.

Pulitzer law suit ?? What’s that all about ? Or do you mean the BBC law suit ??
 
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