Migrant channel crossing deal.

How do you mean 'amend that'? What will an amendment sort? Plus there's the small matter of convincing those that sit in the hallowed chambers to agree.

It was done to death, a few years ago by the last government. They decided to shelve the plans because they perceived them to be unpopular. The Lords are limited in their ability to block the will of parliament.
If we left ECHR and also got rid of the Human Rights Act (which brings ECHR into domestic law) you would have to consider what specific laws remained. You would have things like PACE 1984 and equal rights legislation. And presumably several others. But there would be no overarching backstop to prevent human rights abuses. The protections from Magna Carta etc. are pretty thin in most situations.


I'm not suggesting a future government or current government should do the above, but this is a mechanism for amending the HRA without leaving the ECHR.

Many believe that Blair's HRA went too far, by making the HRA survive other legislation. Since so much of our public services are governed by statutory obligations. I tend to agree.
 
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It was done to death, a few years ago by the last government. They decided to shelve the plans because they perceived them to be unpopular. The Lords are limited in their ability to block the will of parliament.



I'm not suggesting a future government or current government should do the above, but this is a mechanism for amending the HRA without leaving the ECHR.

Many believe that Blair's HRA went too far, by making the HRA survive other legislation. Since so much of our public services are governed by statutory obligations. I tend to agree.
so this statement below...
Just need to amend that - sorted
Is meaningless.
 
We can stop them coming here, but first we must repeal all ties to the ECHR.
It is very simple.
The hard part is finding someone with the bottle, and backing to do it.
Not happening boyo. And blathering about ECHR is an equal waste of energy.
 
so this statement below...

Is meaningless.
no.

There does seem to be support to amend it. (even Labour like the idea)

and of course plenty want to reform / reduce the power of the court itself
 
They need to show that the UK is an awful place to live...cut all benefits to illegal immigrants...nothing, nowt. Not even a penny. Arrive here and you either getting sent back to the country you left or put into hard labour camps for min 5 years, no pay, minimum food...
Show them a few Charlie Veitch vids of Manchester city centre ...
 
no.

There does seem to be support to amend it. (even Labour like the idea)

and of course plenty want to reform / reduce the power of the court itself
You suggested to Liar that ammendments to the complex UK HRA could be tailored to prevent migrants arriving here. And that these ammendments to the act would magically sail through the houses -
"sorted' you said.
Only in your wildest fantasies.
 
You suggested to Liar that ammendments to the complex UK HRA could be tailored to prevent migrants arriving here. And that these ammendments to the act would magically sail through the houses -
"sorted' you said.
Only in your wildest fantasies.
I made no suggestion that the path would be easy. I suggested there was no need to withdraw from the ECHR. Just change the status of the HRA. Any government that has it as a manifesto pledge will find the Lords unwilling to hold it up too long.
Better than MBK's and Liars bollax about amending the HRA in such a way, it stops migrants from coming to the UK lol.
Ahh, just trolling then.

You asked a question, you got an answer, a whole government program to amend and Reform the HRA. 1000s of hours of expertise contributed to it. But according to you - its nonsense.
 
What a complete Cupid Stunt he is.

When he actually gets challenged he runs off and hides in a shop and screams for the police.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of him, what he's recording is plain for all to see.
 
The hard part is finding someone with the bottle, and backing to do it.
That’s bolox

The U.K. has no power over France to make them stop migrants leaving their shores
The U.K. has no power over other countries to force returns.

Just because Farage has said he would sort it, doesn’t mean he could…..if you think otherwise you are easily brainwashed (which we know to be the case)

Another poor deluded Farage Twumpy cultist
 
Regardless of anyone's opinion of him, what he's recording is plain for all to see.
What’s he recording?

He spends his time trying to wind people up and then the weak ones he can beat he posts the videos.

What’s so great about that
 
Farage 2015: "Vote leave to take back control of our borders".

Farage 2025: "Why isn't France doing more to secure our borders?"
 
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