New variant from COVID 19

[Deleted member 18243]

In India killing 50 % of people who get it with in days

some black fungus decease as a direct result of this COVID caper

sounds pretty serious on about it on the news

diabetics are at a high risk ?

You don't still believe all this nonsense do you after a year?

It's all media hysteria. These are not variants, they are scariants.

 

[transam]

You don't still believe all this nonsense do you after a year?

It's all media hysteria. These are not variants, they are scariants.

dunno

there seems to be some type of fungus that is infecting some in India that have had the covid virus ?

could be ball cocks blown out of context

mind you the UK better hope it does not get an out break of that Ebola virus , or we will see what hysteria / panic is really like

 

[IT Minion]

dunno

there seems to be some type of fungus that is infecting some in India that have had the covid virus ?

could be ball cocks blown out of context

mind you the UK better hope it does not get an out break of that Ebola virus , or we will see what hysteria / panic is really like

Ebola is much more deadly, and also much less dangerous.

It's less dangerous because it's much much easier to identify infections (no such thing as asymptomatic infections or spread) and so easier to prevent it spreading. It's also lethal enough that you don't get many idiots thinking that catching it isn't a problem. Which means that it gets taken seriously and gets stopped.

It's a classic statistics failure. A disease that kills 50% of sufferers that affects a total of 5,000 people is going to kill far less than a 2% mortality disease that 50,000,000 will catch.

 

[Trazor]

It's also lethal enough that you don't get many idiots thinking that catching it isn't a problem.

How little you know of some on here........

 

[IT Minion]

How little you know of some on here........

I said you don't get many, not none.

I believe there are laws that allow forcible quarantine for people. With Ebola there wouldn't be any hesitation to apply it, with Covid-19 there is, in part as it's not as lethal but also because it's so widespread now it's impractical.

 

[transam]

I said you don't get many, not none.

I believe there are laws that allow forcible quarantine for people. With Ebola there wouldn't be any hesitation to apply it, with Covid-19 there is, in part as it's not as lethal but also because it's so widespread now it's impractical.

think he meant idiots on/ in here

 

[securespark]

The only time you can get away with "-ist" humour is when you are that which you are mocking.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The only time you can get away with "-ist" humour is when you are that which you are mocking.

Very nicely put. Unfortunately many will not appreciate the candour, experience or humanity contained within the humour, when used in that context. They will see it as consent for them to also participate.

 

[ajohn]

Secondary infections are pretty common with covid if it gets serious. India's main problem is inability to treat the number of people that need that. I recollect that last time they had covid problems they sent lots of people back to their villages. That and other steps controlled it. This time it's been allowed to get out of hand but they have a rather large population so death etc counts need to be per 100,000 to put them into perspective. All counties need to be viewed that way - we don't look too good then.

UK 191.46 / 100,000 Case fatality rate 2.9%
India 21.32 / 100,000 Case fatality rate 1.1%

Big numbers make good news - deaths looked at as above provide a truer picture.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

The racial superiority posts cause me some amusement. Poor peasants, don't know what they are doing etc. We don't live in victorian times any more and haven't for rather a long time.

 

[IT Minion]

India's numbers aren't reliable. They're under testing and there's strong suspicions that they're underreporting deaths.

 

[ellal]

India's numbers aren't reliable. They're under testing and there's strong suspicions that they're underreporting deaths.

As opposed to over reporting deaths?

As was the case in the UK!

From the ONS:

"We use the term "due to COVID-19" when referring only to deaths with an underlying cause of death of COVID-19, and we use the term "involving COVID-19" when referring to deaths that had COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, whether as an underlying cause or not. The following analysis will focus on all deaths involving COVID-19."

Die of cancer but testing positive and you go on the list!

"The fact that non-COVID-19 deaths peaked at a similar time to COVID-19 deaths supports the possibility that excess non-COVID-19 deaths in the earlier months may have been caused directly by undiagnosed COVID-19; in contrast, in the later months the slight increase in non-COVID-19 deaths might be attributed to indirect consequences of the pandemic such as delayed care."

Delayed care is now getting far worse so non-covid deaths will increase!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

UK 191.46 / 100,000 Case fatality rate 2.9%
India 21.32 / 100,000 Case fatality rate 1.1%

Big numbers make good news - deaths looked at as above provide a truer picture.

If only India's count could be relied upon, but the number they report are just a tiny fraction of true numbers.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If only India's count could be relied upon, but the number they report are just a tiny fraction of true numbers.

Allegedly.

 

[EFLImpudence]

In India the situation is getting worst day by day.

Is it? 35 times as many people as Canada.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

 

[IT Minion]

So, more bad news on the Indian variant. It is much more infectious than the British variant and vaccines do seem to be less effective.

PHE have increased the risk assessment for the Indian strain as the stats show a single shot of Vaccine gives less protection. Two shots also give slightly less protection for the Indian variant compared to the British variant, but it's much closer.