Our NHS

[Notch7]

but not for the cancelling of PFI arrangements already agreed with third parties

PFI swallows a significant part of the the NHS budget, it has been a very expensive way of paying for new hospitals.

both Labour and Tory very much to blame for making future generations pay for hospital infrastructure

 

[Notch7]

You are the type to twist no matter how good the NHS is and how much money is thrown at it.If you were being fed on michelin star food in your own ward with a team of world renowned specialists dedicated to you alone you would find fault and moan.

why are you arguing a point not made by Sir Galahad?

makes no sense

 

[durhamplumber]

why are you arguing a point not made by Sir Galahad?

makes no sense

Same reason you always stick up for him no matter what

 

[durhamplumber]

Tory reductions in spending, wage freezes and sell-offs were never a good idea though, were they DP.

Bottomless pit

 

[IT Minion]

Bottomless pit

Why fund any of it then?

 

[durhamplumber]

Why fund any of it then?

Why not throw 100% GDP at it ffs.

 

[IT Minion]

Why not throw 100% GDP at it ffs.

So, what % do you think is sensible?

 

[fillyboy]

do you have a link for that

https://www.womens-health.co.uk/ivf-nhs.html

Current recommendations are for 3 attempts, many trusts that's reduced to 1 or zero, so it is reducing substantially because of cost.
And that's how it should be, available if you're prepared to pay for it.

 

[Diver Fred]

And end the health tourists abusing the system. It's only a small cost to the NHS, but send out the wrong messages. Few other countries' health systems treat foreign spongers for free.

more meaningless nonsense from the stickers in the Daily Wail playbook.

If only it is nonsense - mates wife works in Pompy hospital. The one group that causes the problem is the health tourists (including Brit ex-pats from France and Spain) off the ferry demanding they are treated on the spot. Anything most of the time the majority of the attendees in A&E, especially in the hours after the ferry has docked.
That causes the trouble with the British queuing sensibilities.

 

[durhamplumber]

All of us agree,,the NHS model of free health care at the point of delivery is the gold standard.Finance level and priorities differ.Only those of limited intelligence think money is limitless.

 

[durhamplumber]

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[durhamplumber]

So, what % do you think is sensible?

All of us agree,,the NHS model of free health care at the point of delivery is the gold standard.Finance level and priorities differ.Only those of limited intelligence think money is limitless.

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No idea...but as I say.....100%GDP would not solve NHS problems...It would create more cures and hence more demand,forever

 

[Michael Beaumont]

It is a shame there is no flexibility in where you pay your tax to. You should be able to choose which services you pay more tax to as long as the total amount is what should be paid. Agreed that there can never be enough money for the NHS and health services in general.

 

[durhamplumber]

should be able to choose which services you pay more tax to as long as the total amount is what should be paid

You are having a larffff of course...Let people pay tax to IRA,RNLI,RSPCA,Monster raving loon party......Cats home...etcccccv

 

[ellal]

PFI swallows a significant part of the the NHS budget, it has been a very expensive way of paying for new hospitals.

both Labour and Tory very much to blame for making future generations pay for hospital infrastructure

It's not just the infrastructure costs, it's the supply contracts attached.

The NHS is forced to pay way over the odds for basics as well as drugs.

Plus when the NHS bids for contracts to keep things 'in house', on certain items (such as purchasing drugs) they have to pay VAT which is unrecoverable, whereas private firms can recover their VAT.
Hardly a level playing field.

But no surprise given the number of MP's past and present with links and interests in private health care companies!