People on benefits..

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Hand on heart - non whatsoever

What do you do for a living? Are you self employed?
I work for a company. I've done cash in hand jobs before, and have some income from rental from a property I own. I have always declared all my income to the taxman.

So, what's the name of your company?
 
Maybe if everyone declared their income properly and honestly, then taxation could be reduced.
 
Your normal wages only pay your tax and the companies tax. Its the jobs on the side that make the work worthwhile. Especially if you are already in the higher rate band.
Another dishonest crook who steals from the rest of us.
 
I see the forum is full of daytime posters. No jobs then?
Foreigners got em all! :lol:
Maybe they can't afford the internet on your wages with poor living standards and how many of them are claiming top-up benefits as well?

Can you give me an example of how much you are paying per hour?

And the working hrs per week?
 
Maybe if everyone declared their income properly and honestly, then taxation could be reduced.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think he's probably in favour of not paying tax himself, as long as other people pay theirs. Otherwise there'd be no roads, no police force, no army, no street lamps, no pensions, no NHS, no schools for the poor.

Nope.

I am simply pointing out that pretty much everyone has avoided paying tax at some point, don't throw stones in a glass house etc.

I don't advocate it myself, and haven't had the opportunity to charge cash in hand (so can't honestly say if I would do it or not).

But please, some people get a bit too preachy about a few cash in hand jobs, methinks the lady does protest to much.

And when about 30% of the tax you pay actually goes to roads, police, hospital etc, yea, I resent paying it.

joinerjohn said:
If people buy duty free goods whilst on holiday abroad, and only buy up to their allowance, they aren't defrauding anyone.

It's an activity that people set out to do, to specifically avoid tax.

What is the moral difference between that and not declaring a few cash in hand jobs here and there?

C'mon what is the moral difference?

Or will you hide behind legal technicalities?
 
joinerjohn said:
If people buy duty free goods whilst on holiday abroad, and only buy up to their allowance, they aren't defrauding anyone.

It's an activity that people set out to do, to specifically avoid tax.

What is the moral difference between that and not declaring a few cash in hand jobs here and there?

C'mon what is the moral difference?

Or will you hide behind legal technicalities?

Aaron, you seem to be totally unable to grasp the technicalities of "DUTY FREE" goods.
#Why do you think everyone going abroad and returning back to the UK has this Duty Free Allowance? Which part of DUTY FREE are you struggling to understand? (I've highlighted the relevant word for you just in case)
Are you so naive , that you believe the only reason people go abroad is for the duty free allowance?. Do you think I'd be daft enough to spend upwards of a thousand pounds on a holiday abroad, just because I can bring 200 fags or 250g of tobacco back from Tenerife, Gran Canaria or Fuerteventura?
Do you seriously think thousands of Brit's go to these places so they can buy 200 fags for a couple of quid and bring them back?

In your own words
It's an activity that people set out to do, to specifically avoid tax.
Your own reply to my statement that bringing back your full Duty Free allowance was legal.

One final question.. Are you perhaps a foreign national with a poor grasp and understanding of English Language ?
 
i must admit i have a feeling he is confusing duty free allowance ie what we are legally allowed to bring in with exceeding your allowance /smuggling in goods for profit by avoiding the duty that should be paid
 
Are you so naive , that you believe the only reason people go abroad is for the duty free allowance?.

Errr, some people do jump over the border specifically to load up, yes.

How many people who don't smoke fags, bring back duty free for their friends, happens all the time.

So you still haven't told me what the moral difference between getting duty free (tax free) goods is, and cash in hand (tax free).

You do understand the difference between moral and legal is, or do you simply think legal = moral?

So please, keep typing DUTY FREE in capitals and bold, and not actually answer the question.

i must admit i have a feeling he is confusing duty free allowance ie what we are legally allowed to bring in with exceeding your allowance /smuggling in goods for profit by avoiding the duty that should be paid

Nope.

I know duty free is legal, but what it basically amounts to is "legal tax free goods"

People do go out of their way to get duty free (tax free) goods, why is that morally different than not declaring cash in hand, other than one is legal.

both are activities carried out to avoid tax.
 
i must admit i have a feeling he is confusing duty free allowance ie what we are legally allowed to bring in with exceeding your allowance /smuggling in goods for profit by avoiding the duty that should be paid

Nope.

I know duty free is legal, but what it basically amounts to is "legal tax free goods"

People do go out of their way to get duty free (tax free) goods, why is that morally different than not declaring cash in hand, other than one is legal.

both are activities carried out to avoid tax.


perhaps you send back the amount your personal tax code allows you before you pay income tax ??

its identical in the respect its an allowance up to which you pay no tax but above that level you must pay tax
 
Aaron, If you care to read my first comment on it I did say that people who bring in their legal entitlement are not breaking any laws.. Whether they then decide to profit from this is completely up to them, but I didn't mention this. It was you who decided that everyone who brings their allowance in is morally corrupt. You then intimate that everyone who goes abroad, do this (simply not the case either)
 
I see JohnD is deleting posts again. And he still hasn't answered my earlier question.
I guess being a moderator and branded a liar and a crook/criminal doesn't sit too well with him.

There's a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax evasion imo. Jd is the master at the former. Though it seems he doesn't want the forum members to know this fact.
 
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