Project After Brexit Day

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the EU say that it is the only deal on the table and they won't reopen it, they appear to be saying that they don't give a toss how the UK parliament votes, either accept this deal or we will push you off a cliff on the 29th of March seems to be their message.

Given that that is the deal which WE negotiated, do you blame them?

The EU don't seem to grasp the fact that an agreement is only an agreement if it is agreed by both parties.

And you don't seem to grasp the fact that the agreement is what it says - an agreement. WE negotiated with the EU, and WE agreed to the agreement. If TM did that without involving Parliament, and making sure that they, the legislature, the representatives of the people, who she knew had the right to vote on it, were behind it, whose fault is that?

a) Hers, and therefore the UK's?

or

b) The EU's?

If the EU don't go back to the negotiation table before the 29th of March then it will be they who are responsible for any disruption caused by a failure to reach a deal.

You aren't of this world, are you.

 

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poor old Brig

Poor old us, with the country being trashed by sad, pathetic, snivelling, ignorant, xenophobic, frightened, wretched, shameful little traitors like him.

 

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I look forward to seeing some straight answers from you.

You'll be dead before you get to see it.

At least we know where we stand.

Is there any way to get the entire world to put Brigadier on ignore?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The Negotiations were between the EU and the UK ,there was a provisional agreement between the two ,however it would only become legally binding when ratified by both parties ,as you know the UK parliament rejected the agreement rendering it null and void, the logical thing to do was then for both parties to start further negotiations until a mutually acceptable agreement was arrived at.

You need a new calendar. Yours is broken.

The EU for some strange reason has decided to go down the route of coercion by demanding the UK accept a deal which it has already rejected.
If the EU refuse to return to the negotiating table how can the UK be blamed if no deal is reached.

You're not of this world, are you.

 

[Vinty]

At least we know where we stand.

Is there any way to get the entire world to put Brigadier on ignore?

In your world anything is possible.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The attitude of the EU in recent weeks have probably confirmed to a lot of folk that their suspicions of foreigners are not as irrational as some would like us to believe.

In their minds, maybe,

But then they are ignorant and stupid, so their view of what is or is not rational has no credibility.

 

[Vinty]

Simple what we want doesn't exist. It's May's red lines vs opem border between NI and Republic.

Why dont we just left NI merge with the Republic.

That is a separate issue. Mays red lines count for nothing.
The sovereign UK parliament rejected Mays deal.
An agreement can only exist if is accepted by both parties.
The EU know how the UK democratic system works yet by refusing to come back to negotiating table to get this Brexit debacle sorted in a civilised manner they are behaving like the Nazis many people accuse them of being.

 

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That is a separate issue. Mays red lines count for nothing.
The sovereign UK parliament rejected Mays deal.
An agreement can only exist if is accepted by both parties.
The EU know how the UK democratic system works yet by refusing to come back to negotiating table to get this Brexit debacle sorted in a civilised manner they are behaving like the Nazis many people accuse them of being.

You're not of this world, are you.

 

[jasonzyx]

The Negotiations were between the EU and the UK ,there was a provisional agreement between the two ,however it would only become legally binding when ratified by both parties ,as you know the UK parliament rejected the agreement rendering it null and void, the logical thing to do was then for both parties to start further negotiations until a mutually acceptable agreement was arrived at.
The EU for some strange reason has decided to go down the route of coercion by demanding the UK accept a deal which it has already rejected.
If the EU refuse to return to the negotiating table how can the UK be blamed if no deal is reached.

The correct process would be for the UK representative to take the deal to Parliament. If Parliament reject it, then the UK representative would not accept the deal.
But TM did not follow the logical procedure. It was not a 'provisional acceptance' of the deal. TM accepted the deal without the approval of Parliament, because that was the way it would have been prior to the Gina Miller case.

 

[jasonzyx]

The sovereign UK parliament

UK Parliament is not as sovereign as you think, and as the Leave crusaders make out.

 

[transam]

Poor old us, with the country being trashed by sad, pathetic, snivelling, ignorant, xenophobic, frightened, wretched, shameful little traitors like him.

you need to start taking this Brexit caper seriously

Lives are at risk

 

[durhamplumber]

the agreement is what it says - an agreement. WE negotiated with the EU, and WE agreed to the agreement. If TM did that without involving Parliament, and making sure that they, the legislature, the representatives of the people, who she knew had the right to vote on it, were behind it, whose fault is that?

a) Hers, and therefore the UK's?

Is your keyboard or is it your eyes that are dodgy?

 

[durhamplumber]

Poor old us, with the country being trashed by sad, pathetic, snivelling, ignorant, xenophobic, frightened, wretched, shameful little traitors like him.

Omg.

 

[noseall]

Spoke to a number of (Danes Dutch German) people whilst on me jollies and all have mentioned Brexit. Some think we are nuts. Others feel sorry for us. All mention TM. Some mention Bojo.
None want the UK to leave. That's for sure.

Brexit has certainly put the UK on the map.

 

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Worth a read:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/12/un-big-mess-how-rest-of-europe-views-brexit

[Offer does not apply to those who think it a badge of honour to be unwilling or unable to read anything more than a few lines long]