Rewire or not?

[ebee]

No, because you tell the first one that they will not be getting the contract for any remedial work, thus removing any incentive to inflate the problems.

unfortunately there is a lot of wisdom in that.
some tradesmen might be slightly biased even a little bit shall we say unconciously.
some might be downright rogues.
a lot are somewhere in between so removing that link is a good starter for ten.
you might happen to someone who you trust implicitly not to blur the lines and if so good but if not then removing the possible incentive is most prudent.
Same with garage mechanics and MOTs etc etc.
Removing the link between contractors doing inspect/test and contractors doing remedials can go a heck of a long way towards a fair outcome. You still might have the problem of the suitability of the contractor doing the EICR though

 

[Risteard]

Well in any EICR/PIR I have ever done, if I get to the point at any stage I halt the insp/test and and inform the customer if what I have discovered so far renders it so unsatisfactory that I have already concluded that a rewire is needed or a massive corrections regarding extense of works probably required and ask if they want me to carry on or end it and reduce my charges accordingly.

It would be absurd to carry on and complete the inspect and test to completion if it is so bad and it would be a waste of time and money to do so.

At the estimate stage (free of charge) I would take a decent cursory look around and advise my suspicions accordingly.

It would be futile to carry on the procedure to the end unless the customer insists.

Eric regarding "so with the papered wall the socket was in the corner, technically not permitted, " could you elaborate your meaning on this comment please? I`m a little lost, might be my error though as I am an old git these days

To do the EICR first to confirm the consumer unit change is viable without major corrections is the only sane approach.

To change the consumer unit without an EICR and then find a serious defect such a lack of adequate earthing/bonding or borrowed N etc etc would be almost criminal if not actually criminal surely.

If ever I here some "Electrician" state that they changed a consumer unit before adequate test and inspection such as an EICR the say it additional extra works to keep the installtion live before leaving because of borrowed N or unsafe sitions then I think "You Pilchard! You are not a pro"

How can you reduce your charges? You've already committed to a full day for the inspection.

 

[ebee]

How can you reduce your charges? You've already committed to a full day for the inspection.

Ideed absolutely correct.
It depends,
there have been many times that I was running more than one job, often tied up with other trades and some I could drop into and some I had to keep away from so as not to work over each others.
I have often but by no means always, had an opportinity to do something else with some of that unexpected time, if I suspected that could be the case with a job I could sometimes bias it that way too to increase the liklyhood of such or maybe I could drop onto a few small jobs, so long as I never lost out on that I did not mind, I would not always reduce the price exactly pro rata but as long as I could balance it so I did not lose but the EICR customer could make a gain but sometimes a little disproportionately I would give them that choice at start.

Rather that and find you get to a place where condemn it because youve gained more than enough evidence to do so.

I`d never put circuits back into service on a new consumer unit if they are unsafe to do so but there again I had no right to disconnect someting so bad unless the customer agreed, had ALL of the employees of the old Electric Boards had a total right to do that all, if any?

Iknew a guy who did PAT and he told me that if he found a faulty piece of equipment he considered having a potential to become dangerous if used without repair he would "cut the pug off!" I asked why and he replied he had a duty to prevent danger. I asked him if he the legal authority to do that in respect of theft of the plug or damage to the clients own property rather than merely to advise in the strongest possible terms?