Selling A House.

[securespark]

What happens with the vast majority of sales where houses have had maintenance work (and installation work that does not need notifying) carried out by DIY'ers and they do not have an MWC to cover it?

I was thinking about this the other day when a solicitor I know who deals in house sales said they needed MWC's for all work post Part P...

 

[EFLImpudence]

Rubbish - How can they know?

Just say the price takes into account any {whatever}.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I fitted a new electric shower (3m. from CU) before selling my Mum's flat.

Didn't mention it, could have issued a certificate but they wouldn't know what it meant.
They and buyer were probably happier than if I'd left it with the old shower which didn't work (she never used it).

 

[ericmark]

With mother's house, the social services have done work, I asked for the minor works certificate, and in the end gave up. If the council don't issue them, how can you expect any other firm to issue them?

 

[Risteard]

With mother's house, the social services have done work, I asked for the minor works certificate, and in the end gave up. If the council don't issue them, how can you expect any other firm to issue them?

It should go to the person ordering the work which could be a third party.

 

[securespark]

Thanks guys.
So if you say that you have done work but not notifiable and you have no certs, what can they do?

 

[EFLImpudence]

If it's not notifiable, I don't think they should really be asking.

After all, anyone can do the work and they probably don't even know about certs.



It was likely a ruse by the buyer's solicitor to get the price reduced by frightening the sellers.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Oh. Had assumed it was an actual case. Are you just asking.

 

[securespark]

Yeah. Just wondering how the solicitor could try and make this work. They are supposed to be upstanding people etc. Not misrepresenting the facts.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'm not sure of the actual wording or law but if they can only ask about work since 2005, I don't see how non-notifiable work can be in their remit.

Or conversely, if they ask about work since 2005, surely that does not include non-notifiable work.


Yes, this new light switch.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Buyer's solicitors do not know sh1t. Buyers surveyors know less than ¼ of a bucket of sh1t. They just want a chance to turn a few thou off the price.

 

[big-all]

the home buyers report asks all these questions and has comeback iff you lie or decieve

 

[JohnW2]

Thanks guys. So if you say that you have done work but not notifiable and you have no certs, what can they do?

If they really felt it appropriate, the could advise the buyer not to proceed with the purchase - which, unless the seller were in a desperate rush to sell, is the the buyers (quite possibly expensive) problem, not the sellers. They might also try to use the lack of certs to quibble the price down, but the seller should respond to that by saying that the asking price was determined in the knowledge of all matters relating to the property (including electrical work and the absence of certs). They don't have many other options.

The same would be true if you told the buyer that you had done notifiable work, but had no certificates.

The only important thing is not to lie during conveyancing, since that can get one into deep and potentially expensive trouble. If you tell the truth, the 'worst' the buyer can do is 'walk away' from the purchase - but, IMO, very few would do that for this reason

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

the home buyers report asks all these questions and has comeback iff you lie or decieve

There's no need to lie or deceive - and, as I've just written, one certainly shouldn't do that. Just tell the complete truth and point out that if the buyer doesn't like the answers, they are free to pull out of the purchase (and that you are not going to drop the price!). IME, the great majority will back down at that point, and proceed with the purchase.

Kind Regards, John

 

[flameport]

All that happens is the vendor states 'do not know', 'lost','not available' or whatever with regards to certificates and electrical work.
Same as for everything else such as the replacement windows, gas boiler, conservatory, extension and so on.
The lack of documents and notifications has no effect whatsoever.