Should there be a general election when Starmer gets booted?

[motorbiking]

You are nearly as bad as Boris Johnson.
His motto was, "When in trouble, start speaking in Greek or Latin," most people won't know the difference but they will still think , what a clever bloke.

It’s easy enough to google.

 

[motorbiking]

I wouldn’t mind if he was the Pm instead of Keir; you’ve got me wrong.

But he’s just a posh version of Tommy Robinson. He’s never going to get voted in. We are going to end up with tories again, and again.

I don’t think so.

People want Labour out more than Tories in. That can’t happen with a Tory vote given the current polls.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Is there a way of getting a government out of power?

 

[Dec27]

I don’t think so.

People want Labour out more than Tories in. That can’t happen with a Tory vote given the current polls.

People can’t and won’t seriously vote for Nigel, he’s a snake oil salesman and I don’t think even he believes the **** he speaks.

Better than Keir, definitely.

I’m in the middle. But middle of nowhere at the minute

 

[Highway Man]

That's a very big word.

Maybe to you it is John, to us intellect's it s just two letters.

 

[securespark]

It is looking likely that within the next week Starmer will be booted out of office, in which case this isnt what we voted in. Starmer was elected and his policies/ mandate which have turned out to be farsicle to say the least. If Raynor takes over or Miliband surely that means we have not voted for either of these. It would mean that as per usual what we voted for we didn't get.

Was there a GE every time the Tories changed their grundies, I mean leader?

 

[JP_]

Is there a way of getting a government out of power?

Vote.

 

[King Billy]

It is looking likely that within the next week Starmer will be booted out of office, in which case this isnt what we voted in. Starmer was elected and his policies/ mandate which have turned out to be farsicle to say the least. If Raynor takes over or Miliband surely that means we have not voted for either of these. It would mean that as per usual what we voted for we didn't get.

Yes of course. I remember you calling for the same when May became PM.
And didn't you say the same when Boris rose to be King of the world, and when truss inherited the title, and Sunak.

I remember you arguing vehemently for General Elections during those troubled times.

 

[King Billy]

Its been a farce from day 1, scandal after scandal, its like a soap opera.
Another labour leader after only 18months is just ridiculous.

As ridiculous as Liz Trusses' 50 days?

Did I miss something? Have I been in a time warp, or has Highway Man lost the last 6 years somewhere?

Let's do the timewarp again.

 

[King Billy]

He’s hanging on and fighting because the alternative for the country is far worse. He’ll either call a GE if he does badly in May or gather 80 MPs to back him in a leadership battle.

He doesn't need to do either regardless of the May local elections.

 

[King Billy]

There's a barrister on YouTube who reckons that Starmer won't be able to burn the house down and call an election if that would serve as a threat to make the plebs do as they're told. He reckons that if there's another MP supported by the house then his request would be ignored.

I don't know - I listen to him as he's a barrister, but he is very anti-labour and I'm sure opinions differ among barristers...

Starmer, or anyone else, would need the support of Parliament for an early GE.
Starmer can assume he has the support of his party until such times as anyone challenges his leadership. A challenger would need the support of about 81 MPs, and 5% of the grassroots of the party, or some strong support from TUs'

Or he might decide to stand down in the interest of the country and/or party.

But as it stands, all he has to do is to weather the storm.

 

[King Billy]

I watched that - I think he's wrong, in the title. In the actual video he says something different.

He says can Starmer resign and call an election. But the question is can he call an election as PM.

PM asks the King, King does as he is told. Its a Yes

Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022

www.legislation.gov.uk

The King is not obliged to follow the advice of the PM, he has other advisers he can consult.
If a PM called an unpopular election (within his party), he/she is unlikely to withstand the party political fallout.

 

[King Billy]

The whole country i...

Or half a dozen diehard right wingers on social media.

 

[King Billy]

Is there a way of getting a government out of power?

Ask Trump.

 

[King Billy]

Maybe to you it is John, to us intellect's it s just two letters.

Two letters together combine to form a word.
It's the semantic meaning of that word that holds little or great significance.
For instance, "in" means not out, which can be very important, "on" meaning not off, can have a tremendous influence on subsequent actions.
"If" holds a multitude of subsequent possibilities whether the "if" holds true, or, conversely, does not hold true.
For example, in computer programming, the "if", "then", "else" sequence dominates the following actions depending on the result of "if".
In reality, the result from an "if" condition can have world changing effects. For example, "if" Hitler (or any other famous leader) had been assassinated the world would be a very different world to that which we see now.
So as words go, two letter words can hold a great deal of future contextual significance.