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An unusual crass remark for a serious thread
Suicide.
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OK. I withdraw the accusation "crass" if you can quantify or qualify your claim.
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To say that work is the cure for a case of inexorable suicide is akin to saying that pancreatic cancer should be viewed as a stomach stitch and just jogged through
I knew a girl who killed herself.
She was very pretty and hardworking, so good looking in fact that they used her photo in adverts for a successful local hairdressing chain.
She killed herself ...she was a troubled girl.
My theory is that her moms partner made her feel worthless.
I would like to have a few minutes with this bloke preferably before he made her feel this way.
ho hum.
She was very pretty and hardworking, so good looking in fact that they used her photo in adverts for a successful local hairdressing chain.
She killed herself ...she was a troubled girl.
My theory is that her moms partner made her feel worthless.
I would like to have a few minutes with this bloke preferably before he made her feel this way.
ho hum.
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Not that I'm suggesting anything but I knew a girl who killed herself.
Her suicide note blamed years of sexual abuse by her step father.....
Her suicide note blamed years of sexual abuse by her step father.....
That's why people of that persuasion should be hanged.
That's a bit of a dim thing to say.
Some people are depressed because they live in relative poverty and have to work very hard for very little.
Wrong. At least some of the time. Depression has different ways of affecting people.
I have honestly suffered depression and it was a relief when I went to the doctor about it.
He gave a list of how it effects people, 10 or so different things that come about, some of them, on the face of it, contradictory, for example some people seek one night stands, sex etc others completely go off sex.
Depression for me meant my head developed lots of scenarios, situations, fantasies that all ended badly, I had to stop work, close myself off to the world to a degree to sort in my head what stuff I was getting depressed about was real. Without work I lost the worries of work, and could cut that out of my problems at least.
It was less hassle, less noise, it made it easier to get my head straight. Giot my head together, THEN got back to work, not suffered depression anywhere near it since because I can nopw recognise it and confront it before iot takes control of me.
Too much "noise" too much hassle, I for too long tried to keep working because I thought that was the answer, I can and did understand suicide, and that could have been a real solution the way I was headed then.
Many types of depression. That's why the first question to ask is 'mad or sad'.
If Mad they are simply barking and it can kill you, a very very serious illness and not nice to have at all. Suggesting all they need is a job is rather way off the mark. They need specialist help and often a stay in hospital.
If Sad then you need to decide whether you can do anything about it. Often these are people you can relate to i.e. if my mother died I reckon there's nothing wrong with being depressed.
Lots of them are just peed off with life, live in a bad part of town, husband run away with their sister, kids in trouble with the cops, roof leaks. Not sure you how to fix that without bancrupting the rest of us but medication isn't the cure. They need mates but they are all such miserable *******s nobody wants to hang out with them.
If Mad they are simply barking and it can kill you, a very very serious illness and not nice to have at all. Suggesting all they need is a job is rather way off the mark. They need specialist help and often a stay in hospital.
If Sad then you need to decide whether you can do anything about it. Often these are people you can relate to i.e. if my mother died I reckon there's nothing wrong with being depressed.
Lots of them are just peed off with life, live in a bad part of town, husband run away with their sister, kids in trouble with the cops, roof leaks. Not sure you how to fix that without bancrupting the rest of us but medication isn't the cure. They need mates but they are all such miserable *******s nobody wants to hang out with them.
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Too much "noise" too much hassle, I for too long tried to keep working because I thought that was the answer, I can and did understand suicide, and that could have been a real solution the way I was headed then.[/quote]
I don't mean girlie work in an office. I mean going out and doing some real work in the real world.
Too much "noise" too much hassle, I for too long tried to keep working because I thought that was the answer, I can and did understand suicide, and that could have been a real solution the way I was headed then.[/quote]
I don't mean girlie work in an office. I mean going out and doing some real work in the real world.
Not always specially if you have very deep depression.
You wouldn't want to give a lot of these people a job. But they probably aren't properly depressed, they are just lazy bums who want a sick note from their GP to get get more benefits. Because the GP is a lazy bum who cannot be bothered he gives them one.
So they are labelled depressed, get an excuse not to work, get more benefits, and they are happy.
A lot of people with genuine depression would love to work but the condition cripples them.
But probably in the minority, in this modern 'you owe me everything and I have to prove nothing' society anyway.
So they are labelled depressed, get an excuse not to work, get more benefits, and they are happy.
A lot of people with genuine depression would love to work but the condition cripples them.
But probably in the minority, in this modern 'you owe me everything and I have to prove nothing' society anyway.
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