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The Genocide hating thread

Do you support the occupation or palestinian rights to self determination?

Even the Palestinians don't support it, FFS they've rejected the offer of a two state solution on 5 occasions,
1937 The Peel Commission, 1947 UN resolution 181, the end of the 1967 was and twice by Yasser Arafat in the build up to the Oslo Accords.
FFS you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
 
Have you not asked yourself why so many so many Arab countries are backing the 20 point Trump Plan.
Yes, Israel seems to be the cutting edge of American policy in the region.
Without American support its doubtful that Israel could survive.

America has taken over where the British and French left off, its a modern form of imperialism, they have military bases in the Middle East to protect their interests.
 
Yes, Israel seems to be the cutting edge of American policy in the region.
Without American support its doubtful that Israel could survive.

America has taken over where the British and French left off, its a modern form of imperialism, they have military bases in the Middle East to protect their interests.

Even Turkey are backing them Vinty, that's unprecedented. Why do you think that might be?
 
The Arabs are given lower spec stuff with no ability to target isrseli asset.
Not much use then.
The Americans have the codes and can turn their air defences off remotely if necessary Lol.
Although i think the attack on Qatar was a step to far.
The Gulf states now know that even they are not safe from attack.
Saudi Arabia has now signed a mutual defence pact with nuclear armed Pakistan.
 
Not much use then.
The Americans have the codes and can turn their air defences off remotely if necessary Lol.
Although i think the attack on Qatar was a step to far.
The Gulf states now know that even they are not safe from attack.
Saudi Arabia has now signed a mutual defence pact with nuclear armed Pakistan.

Last I read the US was going to equip Saudi with F35 Stealth's, which Israel wasn't happy about, although as somebody mentioned, Israel has modified some, a number of countries have expressed interest in purchasing Israel's ability to launch ballistics from F35's with accuracy as they did on the Iran strike, never been done before apparently.
 
Not much use then.
The Americans have the codes and can turn their air defences off remotely if necessary Lol.
Although i think the attack on Qatar was a step to far.
The Gulf states now know that even they are not safe from attack.
Saudi Arabia has now signed a mutual defence pact with nuclear armed Pakistan.
Pak KSA agreement is useless, just a piece of paper. KSA need to pivot towards and engage with the best military hardware from China that includes advanced BVR long range missiles, AWACS and 5th gen fighters that will deter.

But doubt that will happen as most arab state defences is geared toward protection of the ruling elite against their own people rather than a foreign enemy (Iran), this is the case all over the middle east.
 
Last I read the US was going to equip Saudi with F35 Stealth's, which Israel wasn't happy about, although as somebody mentioned, Israel has modified some, a number of countries have expressed interest in purchasing Israel's ability to launch ballistics from F35's with accuracy as they did on the Iran strike, never been done before apparently.
Any F35's sold to arab states will be equipped with a kill switch and sensors that will not allow targeting of US and Israeli planes, waste of money really.
 
Yes, Israel seems to be the cutting edge of American policy in the region.
Without American support its doubtful that Israel could survive.

America has taken over where the British and French left off, its a modern form of imperialism, they have military bases in the Middle East to protect their interests.
Biggest base is Isreal, just look at how the US population is controlled, any objections and people are vilified and at risk of losing their livelihood.
 
Even Turkey are backing them Vinty, that's unprecedented. Why do you think that might be?
They may have welcomed Trump's plan, but they haven't endorsed it.
There's a difference. If you can't (or won't acknowledge that) that's your problem.

But Arab states and Turkey have blasted Netanyahu's changes to that plan.

Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan & Qatar angered by Netanyahu’s changes to Trump’s Gaza plan​

The sources explained that the agreement now being presented to Hamas is fundamentally different from the version previously drafted by the United States in coordination with a group of Arab and Islamic countries.

It's always been the same, an agreement is drawn up, which Palestine leadership consider and possibly accept, then Israel changes it, making it unacceptable to Palestinians.
Exactly the same thing happened at Camp David in 2000.
After the summit, the Israeli narrative was widely accepted by the American media, which sought to cast Arafat as a villain and that Palestinians did not want peace.[7] That narrative led to the decline of the Israeli peace movement.[7]
 
They may have welcomed Trump's plan, but they haven't endorsed it.
There's a difference. If you can't (or won't acknowledge that) that's your problem.

But Arab states and Turkey have blasted Netanyahu's changes to that plan.


It's always been the same, an agreement is drawn up, which Palestine leadership consider and possibly accept, then Israel changes it, making it unacceptable to Palestinians.
Exactly the same thing happened at Camp David in 2000.

Yep, alway the case, present it to the world press to huge fanfare, all agrees inc arab states, then water it down and hand it to the Palestinians and break it like they did in March.
 
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