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No, there is one very big reason for it - Freedom.
Are you in favour of England becoming independent of Scotland, Wales and NI?
Why this question? Do you think the Welsh want to stay in the EU? Do you believe the majority of Scots want to stay in the EU too? Last I heard it's Sturgeon saying we should remain (and I didny vote fur hur or her bletherin party)
 
Moreover, the only issue in the Brexit argument is immigration. There is no other justification for Brexit.
No, there is one very big reason for it - Freedom.
Like the prodigal son left his family for FREEDOM!
Then he returned in disgrace and broke.
None of us have freedom. It's freedom within boundaries. You can't describe a nation as being free. That's not a status that can be conferred on a nation. In addition, in this globally connected world, all nations are inter-dependent on many other nations. If we were not in EU, we'd still be in NATO, UN, etc, and still bound by international laws and treaties.

Sadly, Brexit would exacerbate the immigration issue, not resolve it.
How?
Simple. Immigration is now running at about 50/50. That's about 50% EU immigration and 50% non-EU immigration.

The Border Agency doesn't need to worry about the EU citizens. They're free to come and go as they please. Although both EU and non-EU are counted in and out, and their passports checked, etc.

So the Border Agency has only to worry about 50% of the immigrants, the non-EU immigrants. Are they legally allowed to be here, have they overstayed their visa, are they here for a legitimate reason, etc? If they are legally allowed to be here, then all the checks, etc have to be processed. If they're not legally allowed, they have to be processed. Those overstaying have to be found and deported, etc.
How does the Border Agency score on this, so far? Pretty damn dismally, I'd say.

Now if we leave the EU, and the right of EU citizens to travel and work freely in UK is rescinded, the workload of the Border Agency is going to double, at least, maybe more. How will they score then? Even more dismally, obviously. In addition they're going to need a massive recruitment drive, training, and budget, etc.

And we haven't given a thought to all those UK citizens who may be forced to return, requiring accommodation, medical care, etc.
Don't forget, most will have sold their homes to live in EU. But when they're forced to sell up abroad, their cash in hand will be insufficient to buy anywhere in UK, well anywhere reasonable.
 
No, there is one very big reason for it - Freedom.
Are you in favour of England becoming independent of Scotland, Wales and NI?
Why this question? Do you think the Welsh want to stay in the EU?
Yes!
Do you believe the majority of Scots want to stay in the EU too?
Yes! But they wanted to be in UK also. If they're not in EU, they have a right to re-consider their vote. EU may be more important than UK.
Last I heard it's Sturgeon saying we should remain (and I didny vote fur hur or her bletherin party)
Nonetheless, she's talking sense.
 
Who outside of the EU buys Renault cars?
That has nothing to do with the UK resigning from the EU.
It has everything to do with the UK leaving the EU. We buy a lot of their cars. What do you think that the massive corporation that is Renault will say when we raise import tariffs on their products in retaliation to them raising tariffs on our modest exports? Where else in the world will they dispose of that quantity of vehicles to keep their employees in work? Remember Renaults don't like the heat very much and are too complicated and fragile for many third world countries
 
And we haven't given a thought to all those UK citizens who may be forced to return, requiring accommodation, medical care, etc.
Don't forget, most will have sold their homes to live in EU. But when they're forced to sell up abroad, their cash in hand will be insufficient to buy anywhere in UK, well anywhere reasonable.

Scaremongering at best,,, A load of dogs dangly bits at worst.
 
That is a nonsense. Renault cannot sell to Russia today so they are not telling the truth.
The data was from 2014! :rolleyes:Another one that doesn't read well! :rolleyes:
  • Renault is now present in 125 countries
  • Group sales worldwide: 2.7 million vehicles (2014)
  • 46% of the group's sales are made outside Western Europe
  • The five biggest markets of the group are: France, Brazil, Russia, Germany and Turkey (2014)
  • 2,712,432 vehicles sold worldwide by Renault in 2014

Some countries have Renault agents yet sell a handful of cars a year, so the data is inaccurate...
2,712,432 vehicles sold worldwide by Renault in 2014
You call nearly 3,000,000 a handful. Well, in that case, there's less than a handful of refugees in Europe, so what's with your concern on immigration. :rolleyes:
You post propaganda and claim it is truth
It's not propaganda, it's Renault's own data. Can you not tell the difference?
 
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