US Milk - WTF?

[securespark]

Apparently, we may be "forced to take inferior US milk" under a post-Brexit trade deal, according to the i newspaper.

Never mind "America First", what about UK first?

Surely we can source all the milk we need from our dairy farmers without the need to lower our standards?

 

[^woody^]

Any news item that contains a "may do", "might", "could be" or similar crap should be ignored straight away. It's not news.

No one forces you to believe all that you read.

And then when you actually think about it, about all the cows, and all the dairy farms, and all the farmer's busnesses, then you realise what crap is being written.

 

[JohnD]

If we get some sort of trade deal with the US, they will be very robust in insisting that we conform to their standards.

And very robust in refusing to conform to ours.

What did you expect? Do you think China will be different?

We will not be permitted to erect tariff or non-tariff barriers to prevent them exporting their chlorinated chickens or their hormone grown beef to us.

If American milk, from factory farms and chemically-enhanced cows is cheaper, what do you suppose will be on our supermarket shelves?

52% of our voters wanted to resign from an organisation where we had a voice and a vote in setting the rules.

Instead we will be obeying rules that we had no hand in.

"Taking Back Control" my asre.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

I may be prime minister one day. Then you'd better watch out secure!

 

[pete50]

For crying out loud we do not need American crap whether it be milk or anything else. We invented the damn country and we were fine before we had to go cap in hand to other countries. We are an island nation we need to be independant in everything. We were once and we can be again providing the whinging whining excuses for British citizens get off their fat backsides and knuckle down. We have millions of cows and thousands of dairy farmers we do not need anyone elses crap milk or dairy products.

 

[JohnD]

For crying out loud we do not need American crap whether it be milk or anything else.

You'd better tell Mrs May to stop cosying up to the Trumper then.

And tell Gove that we don't need any Trade deals with anybody. And we don't need to export anything.

They may not agree with you.

Britain has been an international trading country for hundreds of years.

 

[Bosswhite]

For crying out loud we do not need American crap whether it be milk or anything else. We invented the damn country and we were fine before we had to go cap in hand to other countries. We are an island nation we need to be independant in everything. We were once and we can be again providing the whinging whining excuses for British citizens get off their fat backsides and knuckle down. We have millions of cows and thousands of dairy farmers we do not need anyone elses crap milk or dairy products.

Times have changed since we were independent, population has increased,Dairy Farmers quitting Farms, Crops going rotten in the fields because there is not enough migrant labour to harvest them

To those that voted Brexit expecting we could go it alone are now beginning to realise we are not a Nation that still watches Cricket on the Village Green on a sunny day and Drink warm beer, without a care in the World as Farage made out,

None of Us knows what Bexit will bring us ( let alone Mrs May, Gove and the rest)
Personally I cannot see it being all Sunshine and Light .

 

[EFLImpudence]

For crying out loud we do not need American crap whether it be milk or anything else. We invented the damn country ...

Mmmm.

Some religious nutters ran away and invented it.
Then fought off English authority.
Then killed the native population. etc. etc.

Just because some of them still speak English ...

 

[JohnD]

... we were fine before we had to go cap in hand to other countries. We are an island nation we need to be independant in everything. We were once and we can be again ....

Can you tell us which period you have in mind, when you think we didn't need to import by trade, or pillage other countries? Obviously you don't mean the days of Empire, or the days when Brit pirates or privateers used to loot foreign galleons, or the days when British slave traders became rich, or the days when Britain imported cotton, sugar and rum produced by those slaves, so you must be going back more than five hundred years.

Just when was this golden age that you think you've heard of?

 

[ellal]

For crying out loud we do not need American crap whether it be milk or anything else. We invented the damn country and we were fine before we had to go cap in hand to other countries. We are an island nation we need to be independant in everything. We were once and we can be again providing the whinging whining excuses for British citizens get off their fat backsides and knuckle down. We have millions of cows and thousands of dairy farmers we do not need anyone elses crap milk or dairy products.

The UK is only 80% self sufficient in dairy products, and less than 60% self sufficient in overall food supplies.

Do you have a magic formula whereby an 'investment tree' is found to rebuild UK farming whilst lowering prices as promised by the leave campaign?

As for 'being independant', we never were.

We relied on plundering the resources of other countries during our empire period in order to fuel our industrial revolution.

But guess what - we are now simply a mediocre nation unable to feed/power itself, and a nation that has virtually no natural resources.

The unicorn appreciation society seem to think we will be able to do favourable trade deals even though the conditions they believe in disappeared many decades ago!

Not exactly a great opening gambit to put on the table when we attempt to negotiate with those we have screwed over in the past is it!

 

[motorbiking]

I quite like the idea that market forces will rule out. Surely the consumer is intelligent enough to be left to purchase the product they want?

 

[ellal]

I quite like the idea that market forces will rule out. Surely the consumer is intelligent enough to be left to purchase the product they want?

The major factor for many when purchasing is price.

And as history shows, the consumer is not always the most intelligent of species where buying is concerned - especially in a rigged market!

 

[JohnD]

market forces will rule out.

What does that mean?

Remember that Trump imposed 292% tariffs on European jets that were in competition with Boeing.

His underling now proposes high tariffs on steel and aluminium.

When you try to get a deal with America, "America First" says Trump.

The US approach to trade deals "We fax them our terms and tell them to sign"

It's not like being in a single market where you are one of the major players and nobody is allowed to discriminate against you. 52% of our voters said they didn't want that.

 

[motorbiking]

Ok so on the one hand we need to protect the consumer, on the other I think a lot of people would want to buy milk with high IGF-1

 

[ellal]

It's not like being in a single market where you are one of the major players and nobody is allowed to discriminate against you. 52% of our voters said they didn't want that.

Which rather shows that "Surely the consumer is intelligent enough to be left to purchase the product they want?" is a comment not based on reality!