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I think you may underestimate the importance of trying to help people understand the difference between computing and 'artificial intelligence', since a lot of people are (I think unnecessarily) seemingly being disturbed by what appears to be 'disinformation'.
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Can I ask you to define "explicitly" in your context please?
I am wondering how that can be unless you ask the computer to utilise one or more of a number of alternative subroutines after a random (or pseudo random) generated number to pick from? something like if rnd (a number between 0 and nearly 1) then multiply by 10 to get a number 0 to 10 = X, then goto subroutine X but that would mean 10 subroutines you have programmed and it kind of picks one of them to apply.
Hope you see what I mean (although I`ve not put it too well) .
My point being you have decided upon the subroutines and programmed them but then unsure which one the the ten to operate on.
My point being in essence, I dont see how it could do that if you have not preprogramed accordingly a number of appropriate preprogrammed alternatives.
I know you might think I am being thick but I can not see how it could work "out of program" so to speak
No need to apologise, but it does worry me a little that everyone seems to be getting panicked into fearing that everything done by computers is some sort of threat to the human raceSorry John...bit daft that one
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That isnt really why I started the thread, I just thought it was a handy bit of software, AI? probably not.No need to apologise, but it does worry me a little that everyone seems to be getting panicked into fearing that everything done by computers is some sort of threat to the human race
Rearly? That's interesting. Could you perhaps give an example of the sort of thing your talking about?
However, I wonder whether, as ebee has suggested, we may be talking at cross-purposes as a result of different understandings of the meaning of "explicitly programmed"?
True "AI" software could be very useful (even if also 'potentially worrying') - but we first need to decide what "AI software" actually means, and whether we yet really have any.
Quite so. That's a very common situation in software, but I definitely would not call it "AI". "Explicitly programmed" does not (in my book) preclude the possibility that what the computer actually does is determined by some random process - but, as you say, if that random process merely determines which of a number of programmed actions is undertaken, I would regard that as "explicitly programmed'.
If you're being 'thick', then so am I
Like I said before, I do like that comment. Brill
Indeed - but that would be "AS", not "AI", so ....Like I said before, I do like that comment. Brill
... what about Artificial Insanity ?
I haven't tried to quote the route to get to that, My concern is the misinformation that prominant public facing AI is returning. I posted an example earlier from chatgpt:
Im sure everuone here will agree this is unacceptible but asking a similar question:
These results are typical of the misinformation in current results from that site so I'm not surprised people are concerned. I thought I'd try a different question:
Trying slightly different wording
However it's not all bad:
So I thought I'd ask a question without a real answer:
It's so wrong I thought I'd ask again:
At least it doesn't return a miraculous colour changing wire:
In all honesty I don't know if these drawings are harvested from actual website information including images or created by picking tidbits and mashing them together, also I know this is not what AI is all about but it is an obvious introduction for the general public to AI and we have already seen a couple of enquiries on the forum where DIYers have first clicked on the AI reply, then questioned the results on DIYnot.
It's so wrong I thought I'd ask again:
At least it doesn't return a miraculous colour changing wire:
In all honesty I don't know if these drawings are harvested from actual website information including images or created by picking tidbits and mashing them together, also I know this is not what AI is all about but it is an obvious introduction for the general public to AI and we have already seen a couple of enquiries on the forum where DIYers have first clicked on the AI reply, then questioned the results on DIYnot.
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Yes, nearly all the answers you present are ridiculous and, given the context, many/most are potentially dangerous.
However, to be fair, and to put all this in perspective, I think it's fair to say that the great majority of answers provided by so-called "AI" tools are quite reasonable, many of them being totally correct.
However, as regards calling this "AI", I still very much question whether any "I" is involved, given that (as far as I am aware) what we are seeing is the result of a combination of 'internet trawling' and programmed behaviour.
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