Wetherspoons boss calls for more EU migration to tackle bar staff shortage

Plenty of successful businesses have run on that model.
Poundland for one example.
Nothing wrong with what Tim Martin does.
I was in one of his pubs yesterday.
£3.50 for a pint of Guinness, the pubs up the street charge over a fiver for Guinness.
You get what you pay for.
 
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That seems to support the comment that I've seen.
I was told by one pub landlord that on some of the beer he buys he only pays the VAT.
Having said that, his pubs have top hygiene ratings and no one has been poisoned by drinking his beer.
Although his dodgy curries could be another matter.
 
Support local pubs that are supporting local brewers, not national chains that are turning the traditional pub into a bargain basement boozer.
 
But I thought you knew exactly what you were voting for?
The box on the ballot paper was an absolutely unqualified 'leave'.
It was being heavily supported by mass-circulation newspapers with a solid track record of xenophobia and racial prejudice.
It was being pushed by politicians who were obviously lying, who had a proven history of lying, particularly over wholly fabricated anti-EU issues.
It was being pushed by politicians who were obviously blaming the EU for the ills they themselves had caused, who were promising things which were obviously impossible, who obviously had no actual plan on how we would leave, and who were obviously in thrall to an ideologically driven elite.

In ticking that box, he, and every other person who ticked it was giving them carte blanche to do whatever they chose on the back of the votes.

He was saying "I want you to go and do what the hell you like, and I really do not care if it brings economic hardship, I really do not care if it brings personal hardship, I really do not care if it brings huge domestic political problems, I just want to be out, and whatever price you make the country pay for getting out is absolutely fine by me."
 
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Brexers could never agree what sort of Brexit they wanted (and still can't) so it was a trick enabling campaigners to promise different things to different people so they all (wrongly) thought they would get what they wanted.

Examples:

Brexit was an opportunity to reduce our reliance on imports and globalisation and our c02 emissions etc,

I voted for control of who come into our country..... not to kick the good Foreign army out.
 
The box on the ballot paper was an absolutely unqualified 'leave'.
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In ticking that box, he, and every other person who ticked it was giving them carte blanche to do whatever they chose on the back of the votes.

He was saying "I want you to go and do what the hell you like, and I really do not care if it brings economic hardship, I really do not care if it brings personal hardship, I really do not care if it brings huge domestic political problems, I just want to be out, and whatever price you make the country pay for getting out is absolutely fine by me."

Brexers could never agree what sort of Brexit they wanted (and still can't) so it was a trick enabling campaigners to promise different things to different people so they all (wrongly) thought they would get what they wanted.
To be fair, many Brexiteers were talking about staying in the SM. It was only well down the road, as TM was expressing her preferred option, that all the true implications started to unravel.
As far as NI was concerned, I think it was only after the referendum, but before the Article 50 letter was delivered, that NI became a real issue.
 
The UK can't produce the quantity of food that it consumes. Polytunnels are extending the range but there are limitations. People used to eat a lot of pomegranates for vitamins. Banana and citrus fruits aren't easy to grow here. ;) Maybe wind turbines, polytunnels and electrical climate aid would help with this and other things with the same problems. Works with pot so could with other things. Mind you that grows well here anyway.

Going back to the title of the thread the solution to that is pretty easy according to Priti Gormless. Recent statement in the house. There are a group of people who are referred to as being economically inactive. In lots of cases that can mean unemployed but they don't figure in the count. They have been asked if they would like a job and lots and lots said yes. So Priti says fill the "vacancies" with these people what ever those are needed for. Another aspect of this area is making work pay compared with benefits. Also reducing state support and placing more reliance in charities - food banks for instance. Cameron was extremely clear about that. A persons desire to do a particular job being to some extent immaterial.

:mrgreen:To some extent she is correct. Go back in time and not all that long ago and upon finishing education the general aim for all was get a job. Any job to get some money coming in. People wont do some so eastern Europeans appear who often also have a better work ethic. People from other countries appear because they can do what is wanted. I mean training your own people is expensive better import some one instead. Our new immigration policy is likely to account for that.
 
To be fair, many Brexiteers were talking about staying in the SM. It was only well down the road, as TM was expressing her preferred option, that all the true implications started to unravel.
And at that point, how many Brexiteers said "hang on - this isnt what we were promised, maybe we should pause for a bit while we thrash out a proper plan, and then see if it is still what people want", and how many screamed that such suggestions were anti-democratic ideas put forward by enemies of the people and then went on to vote for a man who had lied to them in the first place and who had broken the law in order to stop our democratically elected parliament from taking back control?


As far as NI was concerned, I think it was only after the referendum, but before the Article 50 letter was delivered, that NI became a real issue.
For pitys sake - WT* did they think would happen if we created a land border between the UK and the EU in a place where an international treaty forbids any physical border infrastructure?
 
Brexit is only an opportunity for the rich and wealthy to deregulate and make money out the chaos.

I've yet to see an brexiteer come up with an actual real benefit.

Well
Plenty of successful businesses have run on that model.

Poundland, B&M, home bargain's, the range....

They all started using that model, I don't think they can rely on it so much now due to the competition..
 
For pitys sake - WT* did they think would happen if we created a land border between the UK and the EU in a place where an international treaty forbids any physical border infrastructure?

everybody always knew that what the brexers said they wanted was impossible. Brexers didn't want to face up to it so Prime Buffoon fobbed them off for a while with nonsense about a magic technology that doesn't exist.

Cultists will brook no heresy.
 
many Brexiteers were talking about staying in the SM

Not exactly. More saying it wouldn't be a problem. Boris for instance "they will still want to sell us their BMW's". Same with loads of other things as well. They will want to.

:ROFLMAO:The attitude has a problem. Sure they will sell the same stuff to us and we will buy it. How to stop or remove the need for us to do that? Other cars and many other things as well. Food is an interesting one.

Trade deals? Tariffs? Only buy stuff that originates here? Some cars do. Personally I don't need a JCB or a number of other things that are made here that are a bit specialist. Seems we are extremely good at making supermarket shelving. Sells all over the place - that might be a did now.

In respect to a lot of things we buy the UK is like Amazon. Lot's of things are imported and stuck in warehouses come distribution centres. Some to UK agents who have deals with the makers and what ever storage facilities they happen to need. Amazon - as I suspected following brexit look to be opening more warehouses. More jobs if people want them.

Why do things go like this - globalisation and profit. Iphones for instance do not need many people to actually produce them at rates to meet worldwide demand. Why make them here? They are designed in the USA - more people needed than to make them. The same thing applies to all sorts. Japan designs all sorts. At some point China will get more and more involved in that. It already has to some extent. S Korea is at the final stage of that. Good stuff.

Business here sees importing and selling as an easier life. It is. Returns are safer.
 
everybody always knew that what the brexers said they wanted was impossible. Brexers didn't want to face up to it so Prime Buffoon fobbed them off for a while with nonsense about a magic technology that doesn't exist.

Cultists will brook no heresy.
The problem with strength of belief is that no matter how strong it is, it cannot defeat reality.

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Are you so naive to believe that he would just threaten us, for no reason.

It's blindingly obvious what he wanted from us.

So what did he want? I am confused as to why his comment was seen as blackmail when he was leaving office in a few months.
 
So what did he want? I am confused as to why his comment was seen as blackmail when he was leaving office in a few months.

it was called blackmail by people who didn't want to hear it but had nothing to disprove it.

Still is.
 
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