Whats stopped you voting Labour

[Deleted member 294929]

I voted labour for years, then it dawned on me that they did nothing for the working people. I am still of the same opinion.

One of my reasons why I haven't voted for them. Yet the make out that they are for the working man

 

[festive]

Stop being the alternative tories.

 

[gas112]

IRA loving Corbyn

 

[Dork Lard]

I know some of the political activists that used to run my local labour party branch but they were pushed out by a bunch of marxist revolutionaries. Instead of moderate socialists we now have extremists with radical ideas which seem to focus on the complete destruction of everything.

 

[JP_]

I never stopped. I vote libdem in local elections (they beat the Tories last round, labour no chance) but labour in general. Labour best for our country, Tories best for their country.

 

[JP_]

IRA loving Corbyn

To the press then?

 

[Doug99]

Tory rebels are willing to go public when they don't agree with cabinet ministers and we regularly see headlines of an open letter to the PM, which occasionally results in a change of tack before legislation is put to Parliament.
Labour however argue amongst themselves behind closd doors and its difficult to establish what the party line is.
The latest debacle is a Labour female MP being castigated by her own members because she is arguing the case of women's rights/safety. Whilst many other female MPs may agree, they are keeping their heads down to avoid the Labour sh*t storm.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Become old labour and do the job they were set up to do in the first place. I will not be discussing this on this forum but the present labour party are nearly as tory as the tory party and as for the lib dems, nuff said. My only other comment is that almost anything is better than the pile of excrement that is in power at the moment.

I think it's about time they recognise they are trying to represent 2 different factions of people. They need to split and become the left and the middle they are trying to appeal to.

Way better than the Tories currently, regardless

 

[carmanmemoranda]

About 3/4 of every comment on GD, on any thread or by any contributor, states, either directly or indirectly, that the tories are evil and that we need The Labour Party in power.

The present tory party are the continuation of New Labour.

Blair changed everything. New Labour has been in power since 1997.

Rubbish

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Kinnock, Blair, Brown, Milliband, Corbyn.

Johnson. Truss. Etc

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Didn’t like them. Didn’t trust them. Only one I liked was John Smith, he seemed a genuine sort but he died in office. Starmer seems more likeable than most of the others. Only time will tell.

But you like and trust the Tories?

Blinkered !

 

[fillyboy]

Didn’t like them. Didn’t trust them. Only one I liked was John Smith, he seemed a genuine sort but he died in office. Starmer seems more likeable than most of the others. Only time will tell.

Alan Johnson was and is a sound bloke, should have gone onto greater things. Although he came up through the trade unions before entering politics, in the union he was a moderniser, he understood the need for increased efficiencies in exchange for more money.
His books are a great read, I was in touch with him briefly, because of his time as a postman in Slough, we had quite a few mutual acquaintances.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I can't be the only one who feels this, as you get older and live through more ups and downs affecting the country, you can't help but become a bit jaded about the whole political machine. Of course not everything is their fault, business leaders, CEOs, middle management and even some individual citizens also play a part in f**king things up. However it is government that set policy and strategy.

As has been touched on, for me all the major parties don't have much to differentiate them these days. Pointing by using the thumb, serious face, sincere tone, followed by vacuous non committal garbage coming out the mouth. Is it any wonder people don't believe much they say.

The sad thing is (and they may indeed be right) I think Labour has concluded if they've to have any chance of regaining power, they need to be a lot more 'corporate' in their approach. Starmer certainly fits into that.

Up here in Scotland, Scottish Labour has an uphill battle due to the SNP's share of the vote. I'm hoping come the next GE that more than a few SNP voters will lend their vote to Labour as a stand against the independence thing. However I have my doubts this will happen to any significant degree.

A guy on the QT panel summed it up the other night when they were debating the NHS winter crisis. As he pointed out, the NHS has been in crisis during winter for decades, and still it's not sorted. If that's not the fault of government and NHS management then whose fault is it?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I can't be the only one who feels this, as you get older and live through more ups and downs affecting the country, you can't help but become a bit jaded about the whole political machine. Of course not everything is their fault, business leaders, CEOs, middle management and even some individual citizens also play a part in f**king things up. However it is government that set policy and strategy.

As has been touched on, for me all the major parties don't have much to differentiate them these days. Pointing by using the thumb, serious face, sincere tone, followed by vacuous non committal garbage coming out the mouth. Is it any wonder people don't believe much they say.

The sad thing is (and they may indeed be right) I think Labour has concluded if they've to have any chance of regaining power, they need to be a lot more 'corporate' in their approach. Starmer certainly fits into that.

Up here in Scotland, Scottish Labour has an uphill battle due to the SNP's share of the vote. I'm hoping come the next GE that more than a few SNP voters will lend their vote to Labour as a stand against the independence thing. However I have my doubts this will happen to any significant degree.

A guy on the QT panel summed it up the other night when they were debating the NHS winter crisis. As he pointed out, the NHS has been in crisis during winter for decades, and still it's not sorted. If that's not the fault of government and NHS management then whose fault is it?

We are currently led to believe it's the fault of the strikers. And lots believe it

 

[fillyboy]

A guy on the QT panel summed it up the other night when they were debating the NHS winter crisis. As he pointed out, the NHS has been in crisis during winter for decades, and still it's not sorted. If that's not the fault of government and NHS management then whose fault is it?

It's our fault for insisting that the holy grail that is the NHS is free at the point of delivery. It's not sustainable. Even in countries where the healthcare is insurance funded, France for example, they are struggling. Germany less so but I believe the insurance premiums are significantly higher than France.