Whats stopped you voting Labour

[ReganAndCarter]

Not a natural labour supporter. However for a start changing Starmer would be a step in the right direction. He's had an open goal with the Tory sh*t show for a few years, and doesn't have the nouse to exploit it. Don't know what he stands for. Showed his true colours when that publican in Bath harranged him and tore him a new one. Starmer's response was pathetic. This showed that although Starmer is obviously a seriously intelligent man, he doesn't have the instinct or resiliance to be a successful party leader.

Even bearing all this in mind, I would vote for Starmer yesterday if he got himself off the fence and said he would seriously build bridges with The EU and adopt an adult, grown up working relationship with our biggest trading partner. Rather than the pathetic economically destructive policies of The Tories.

 

[JohnD]

Ten or twenty quid for a visit to a GP sounds reasonable, it would certainly reduce GP's workload at a stroke just by getting rid of the time wasters and the ones who wont show up anyway.

No, it would get rid of the ones who haven't got ten or twenty quid to spare

Which is not at all the same thing.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No, it would get rid of the ones who haven't got ten or twenty quid to spare

Which is not at all the same thing.

And how much admin would be involved in collecting the money, assessing those that claim exemption, chasing up the late payers. Would people with long term issues and regular checks need to pay or be in reduced rates or exempt . More paperwork there too.

Plus how much compensation for people who died because they couldn't afford to get medical opinion or attention.

Total costs would be more than raised.

A great right wing rallying call though. Most right wingers seem to be in the well off category and think everybody else is too. Out of touch !

 

[fillyboy]

A management issue then

Who is in control of that ?

NHS England.

 

[fillyboy]

And how much admin would be involved in collecting the money, assessing those that claim exemption, chasing up the late payers. Would people with long term issues and regular checks need to pay or be in reduced rates or exempt . More paperwork there too.

Plus how much compensation for people who died because they couldn't afford to get medical opinion or attention.

Total costs would be more than raised.

A great right wing rallying call though. Most right wingers seem to be in the well off category and think everybody else is too. Out of touch !

Seems to work ok in France.

 

[gas112]

Local practise 47,000 patients thousands of missed appointments each year people constantly complaining they can get an appointment and on the phone for over an hour .
Do they have a dedicated number, text service or web page for people to cancel appointments nope so those that no longer need appointment phone up get told 60minute wait just hang up . Basic job to set something up

 

[fillyboy]

Local practise 47,000 patients thousands of missed appointments each year people constantly complaining they can get an appointment and on the phone for over an hour .
Do they have a dedicated number, text service or web page for people to cancel appointments nope so those that no longer need appointment phone up get told 60minute wait just hang up . Basic job to set something up

And yet we now officially have more GP receptionists than we have GP's.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

NHS England.

And who is charge of that ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Seems to work ok in France.

if rather my doctor and surgery concentrated on medical issues than debt collecting

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Local practise 47,000 patients thousands of missed appointments each year people constantly complaining they can get an appointment and on the phone for over an hour .
Do they have a dedicated number, text service or web page for people to cancel appointments nope so those that no longer need appointment phone up get told 60minute wait just hang up . Basic job to set something up

For a change, you make a valid point

 

[JohnD]

A management issue then

Who is in control of that ?

NHS England.

You are of course mistaken (no surprise)

The Rt Hon Steve Barclay MP
Steve Barclay was appointed Secretary of State for Health and Social Care on 25 October 2022. He previously held the same role between 5 July 2022 and 6 September 2022.

Previous holders of this role
The Rt Hon Thérèse Coffey MP
2022 to 2022

The Rt Hon Steve Barclay MP
2022 to 2022

The Rt Hon Sajid Javid MP
2021 to 2022

The Rt Hon Matt Hancock MP
2018 to 2021

The Rt Hon Jeremy Hunt MP
2018 to 2018 (from 4 September 2012 with a different job title)

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - GOV.UK

www.gov.uk

Prior to which,

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mottie]

No, it would get rid of the ones who haven't got ten or twenty quid to spare

Let them in free as long as they don’t smoke, don’t drink, don’t do drugs, don’t run a car, don’t wear designer trainers, don’t have sky tv and don’t have the latest mobile.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Let them in free as long as they don’t smoke, don’t drink, don’t do drugs, don’t run a car, don’t wear designer trainers, don’t have sky tv and don’t have the latest mobile.

don't play sport and get injured, climb ladders and fall off, do woodwork and cut themselves, etc

 

[Notch7]

And yet we now officially have more GP receptionists than we have GP's.

In the UK our system is that GPs act as gatekeepers to other services……GP receptionists act as gatekeepers to stop you getting to see the doctor.….so to get rid of all these pesky waiting lists, each doctor surgery should have a doorman, to act as gatekeeper to stop you getting inside……and a skip outside for the bodies.

Solved it: no sick patients in, no waiting lists

 

[JohnD]

Let them in free as long as they don’t smoke, don’t drink, don’t do drugs, don’t run a car, don’t wear designer trainers, don’t have sky tv and don’t have the latest mobile.

And pay the private investigators out of the NHS budget.