US Milk - WTF?

[SirGalahad]

Bendy bananas are the tastiest ones.

I dont know why the EU banned them

Ive chlorinated chicken sandwiches for lunch, yummy with a bit of salad.

Love peddling myths.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/media/euromyths/bendybananas.html

 

[ellal]

I'm having difficulty imagining how you think the world works. Do you think other countries will force us to buy their dirty foreign diseased milk?

Well funnily enough I live in the real world, unlike those who believe that UK PLC can wind back time to an era when this country had a bit of an influence in world affairs.

We will have to make deals with countries that will force on us products we didn't countenance in the past - simply because outside of the EU it will be a case of 'take it or leave it'!

The UK is no longer one of the big players.

Thus I find it difficult to imagine how anyone cannot understand that fact and it's obvious consequences!

 

[ellal]

Corporates the world over work their way around all sorts of acts, regs, and the like.
You only have to look at the financial crisis, or the tax avoidance, to see that.
It's not just a US issue.

It is indeed not 'just a US issue'.

However on the issue of food safety (which is what is being discussed here), if you have an open mind you will come to understand that EU scrutiny (albeit far from perfect) is far better than the corresponding US regulatory bodies - because despite leavers protests, the EU is far more accountable/democratic than the American (or UK) systems!

 

[motorbiking]

Yes the EU is never motivated to ban produce based political agenda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4785610.stm

A ban that may have had merit for 2-3 years took a further 7 to be removed.

There were recent cases of mad cow in France. Was there a subsequent ban?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Yes the EU is never motivated to ban produce based political agenda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4785610.stm

A ban that may have had merit for 2-3 years took a further 7 to be removed.

Does this indicate the EU's stringent and careful concerns?

There were recent cases of mad cow in France. Was there a subsequent ban?

Oh no there wasn't!
There was a case:

PARIS (Reuters) - France’s agriculture ministry confirmed on Thursday that a case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, had been discovered in the northeastern region of Ardennes.

The suspected case, found in a five-year-old cow, was identified last week during a test carried out on cattle older than 48 months after slaughter.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...onfirms-case-of-mad-cow-disease-idUSKCN0WQ15S

It could have affected French exports:

However, the outbreak is likely to affect French exports, the ministry said on its website, because the country’s official BSE risk level assigned by the OIE would be changed.

“Depending on countries, export conditions of French cattle could be modified,” it said.

 

[noseall]

Yes the EU is never motivated to ban produce based political agenda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4785610.stm

A ban that may have had merit for 2-3 years took a further 7 to be removed.

There were recent cases of mad cow in France. Was there a subsequent ban?

Given how devastating the UK outbreak was, is it any wonder Germany and France were cautious.

Good ole EU sticking up for Blighty.
DECEMBER 1999
French PM Lionel Jospin says his country will not lift the ban and threatens to take the EU to court for trying to force it to take British beef.

FEBRUARY 2000
The European Commission begins legal action against Germany for its failure to lift its ban.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4785610.stm

Do try and at least do some research first. 3 sentences 0 truths. Well done

 

[Ihavenojob]

If tobacco or alcohol were introduced now they would be banned, along with certain foods. I mean , who in their right mind would have KFC or a doner kebab? The fact is they are available & people decide whether to have them or not (apart from parents buying a bargain bucket for dinner). The same would happen with any other stuff imported, if it was incredibly cheap some people may use it but if it doesn't sell then they wouldn't bother exporting it.

 

[SirGalahad]

If tobacco or alcohol were introduced now they would be banned, along with certain foods. I mean , who in their right mind would have KFC or a doner kebab? The fact is they are available & people decide whether to have them or not (apart from parents buying a bargain bucket for dinner). The same would happen with any other stuff imported, if it was incredibly cheap some people may use it but if it doesn't sell then they wouldn't bother exporting it.

Alcohol banned? What you on about. So Alcohol imports are banned? Haha

So we don't need any standards or controls. Let's import food stuff from Japan - it's impacting on my freedom not to buy tainted food.

 

[Brigadier]

It is indeed not 'just a US issue'.

However on the issue of food safety (which is what is being discussed here), if you have an open mind you will come to understand that EU scrutiny (albeit far from perfect) is far better than the corresponding US regulatory bodies - because despite leavers protests, the EU is far more accountable/democratic than the American (or UK) systems!

I'm fully aware of that.
So what purpose introducing an irrelevant (non, as it happens) comparison?

 

[SirGalahad]

Corporates the world over work their way around all sorts of acts, regs, and the like.
You only have to look at the financial crisis, or the tax avoidance, to see that.
It's not just a US issue.

No one is saying it is. Corporate Capture is a troubling issue, it effects right at the heart of democracy.

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2012/01/05/the-corporate-capture-of-the-united-states/

Or if reading is not your thing.
Watch Professor Reich documentary on Netflix called Saving Capitalism.

 

[ellal]

I'm fully aware of that.
So what purpose introducing an irrelevant (non, as it happens) comparison?

Well if you believe pointing out the failings of regulatory bodies is 'irrelevant', then you obviously don't understand the issue!

But hey, if you wish to blindly consume chemical/hormone ridden food produce then you may soon be given that choice - at a discounted price of course

 

[Ihavenojob]

Alcohol banned? What you on about. So Alcohol imports are banned? Haha

Read it again numbskull. I said if it was introduced now.

 

[SirGalahad]

Read it again numbskull. I said if it was introduced now.

I can get an alcohol import license so how would alcohol introduced now be banned? Why issue an alcohol import license for banned products?

What crap you talking. You on some homemade moonshine.

 

[Notch7]

Oh no there wasn't!
There was a case

Wrong as usual

You enjoy posting smug pantomine put downs but conveniently ignore part of what has been written or re-define it.

Let me help you:

You should have said:
"If I assume 'recent cases', to only mean the year 2016, then you are incorrect, there was only one case. If however you included earlier years as your definition of 'recent', then I am wrong and an utter Numpty"

Here you are, you can pick the years you like:

http://www.oie.int/animal-health-in...cases-worldwide-excluding-the-united-kingdom/

I just like to help you out to save you any embarrassment

 

[Notch7]

Given how devastating the UK outbreak was, is it any wonder Germany and France were cautious

I had really forgotten just how bad it was. The numbers really are quite shocking:

http://www.oie.int/animal-health-in...c-data/number-of-cases-in-the-united-kingdom/

There was probably some level of under reporting going on in France, but even so, the numbers did give good reason for caution across the channel.