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[ban-all-sheds]

There is, as far as I know, no census data available that indicates the origins of current Chinese in UK, for you to make such an assumption, other than that the majority are UK born.

If they're born here then they are not Chinese, are they.

 

[Bodd]

Typical, you make a claim as though it is fact, relying on it to be disproven. Otherwise you will claim it as fact.

The moon is made of cheese.

There are a large group of Chinese from HK, but it is not the majority.
Most Chinese in the UK are descended from previous expat Chinese from other places, including UK born, as well as HK, such as Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chinese_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom
There is, as far as I know, no census data available that indicates the origins of current Chinese in UK, for you to make such an assumption, other than that the majority are UK born.
What data is available is based on anecdotal and historical assumptions. Your 'life experience' excluded.
But the early Chinese settlers were ex-sailors, from Shanghai, Guangzhou Canton and Northern and southern China.
The last time I looked those places were not in Hong Kong.

You do know Singapore Vietnam Malaysia are not China?

Don't you?

 

[Bodd]

If they're born here then they are not Chinese, are they.

I think that would depend on how they describe themselves.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

You do know Singapore Vietnam Malaysia are not China?

I think that would depend on how they describe themselves.

You have answered your own question.
A lot of Singaporeans, Malaysians, Vietnamese, etc are of Chinese descent.

You do know that Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc are also not in China , but many Chinese in UK describe themselves as Chinese even though they were born in those Commonwealth countries mentioned.

 

[Bodd]

You have answered your own question.
A lot of Singaporeans, Malaysians, Vietnamese, etc are of Chinese descent.

You do know that Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc are also not in China , but many Chinese in UK describe themselves as Chinese even though they were born in those Commonwealth countries mentioned.

I've been yo most of these country's so I'm fully aware of thier make up.

Would say Simon Le Bone was French just on the basis that he has a French name.

We are all of a mixed breed.

Don't try to defend you ignorance just brush up on your Geography.

 

[Notch7]

but many Chinese in UK describe themselves as Chinese even though they were born in those Commonwealth countries mentioned.

How people describe themselves is of no relevance.

You may wish to describe yourself as intelligent

 

[Bodd]

A lot of Singaporeans, Malaysians, Vietnamese, etc are of Chinese descent.

Also alot are of Indian descent and some of that Bangladeshi that used to be India but more recently East Pakistan.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

You do know Singapore Vietnam Malaysia are not China?

I think that would depend on how they describe themselves.

Don't try to defend you ignorance just brush up on your Geography.

Isn't it weird how some people squirm and wriggle, even to the point of switching sides, depending on which argument they prefer at any particular time to defend their previous statements.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

How people describe themselves is of no relevance.

So now you are saying that if someone describes themselves as a second-hand car salesperson, you interpret that as a regional sales manager for a major marque, including global and intergalactic sales?

 

[Notch7]

Isn't it weird how some people squirm and wriggle, even to the point of switching sides, depending on which argument they prefer at any particular time to defend their previous statements.

You should take Bodd's most wise advice and brush up on your geography

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

You should take Bodd's most wise advice and brush up on your geography

If you are now saying that you do have donkey brains, I suggest you leave the intelligent discussion to the adults.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I think that would depend on how they describe themselves.

People can be just as wrong about how they describe themselves as they can about how they describe others.

And where's the logic in having entire government departments and government and private security forces tasked with denying people the ability to describe themselves as UK citizens but allowing free rein to people to describe themselves as non-UK?

The rules and policies must be consistent and logical.

 

[Bodd]

People can be just as wrong about how they describe themselves as they can about how they describe others.

And where's the logic in having entire government departments and government and private security forces tasked with denying people the ability to describe themselves as UK citizens but allowing free rein to people to describe themselves as non-UK?

The rules and policies must be consistent and logical.

I have this descusion with my mate Mark. If you heard him on the phone you would say he English. He describes himself as Chinese British. Talking *******s I tell him. He's as English as I am, he denies he's English.
Born England to HK parents under British rule. Supports England World Cup.

I have a mate Ricky who's Dad is Chinese Malaysian. He would consider himself nothing but English and so very proud of it.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

What is his legal status?

If it is that he is a UK citizen then the only way to not be one is by renouncing it - he can no more simply declare himself to not be one if he is than someone born to non-UK parents outside the UK can become one by simply declaring that they are.

 

[Bodd]

What is his legal status?

If it is that he is a UK citizen then the only way to not be one is by renouncing it - he can no more simply declare himself to not be one if he is than someone born to non-UK parents outside the UK can become one by simply declaring that they are.

I tried getting g him deported under windrush