Advice required on work related issue

[geek84]

Good Evening folks

I hope you're all well and a very happy new year to you all !!

Can someone kindly give advice on the issue I have at work please?

I have been working full time in the finance dept. for a private company on a permanent basis for the last 18 months, having passed their initial 3 month probation.

However, last October, a job opportunity came up in their accounts dept. and I moved into this new dept. after having a chat with my line manager and financial controller. I was put on a 3 month probation again, and trained up quite quickly and made my own notes (regarding how to perform my job related tasks) as we went along. However, i am still a bit rusty on some of the tasks and have made several mistakes. I have requested my line manager to sit down with me again, so that I can correct my notes and fill in any gaps in my knowledge. The manager keeps on saying that there is a large work load for her to get through and if I have any issues then to raise them at my work review meeting which will be take place in about 2 weeks time, when my 3 month probation will end.

If in that meeting, the manager argues that I have been given all the necessary training, and should be up to speed with performing my designated tasks (which I am not) and consequently decides to fire me, do I have grounds for appeal? Or, do you think it be better just to collect my belongings and work out of the building?

Any advice greatly appreciated.

 

[HERTS P&D]

Jesus wept, here we go again.

Andy

 

[Tigercubrider]

So have you been employed for more than two years? Does the overall period come to two years?

Afaik you can only have one "probationary" period. Once that is done, you are an employee. Any second "probation" is just an agreement that you could go back to your old job if it doesn't work out.

Your employer must demonstrate that they have made every effort to train you before claiming that you are poor at your job.

But afaik all these rights are limited to two years ?

 

[conny]

You could bring it up at your review in 2 weeks and explain that you have asked for help but it has been refused, however, if they discover the reason is because your notes are wrong or incomplete, and you have been using them instead of the company supplied training methods, then you could be on a sticky wicket.

 

[Mottie]

Geek. It was only two weeks ago on Pistonheads you were asking about looking for a new job. Have you decided you want to keep your old one now?

 

[motorbiking]

You don't really have any rights within the first 2 years. They can fire you for wearing brown shoes if they want. The probation period is irrelevant.
However, and don't take this the wrong way, but if you suffer with autism or a learning disability, Under the 2010 Equality Act, an employee is protected from discrimination. You should not be discriminated against on the grounds of your disability. It also means that your employer should make reasonable adjustments to help you at work.

 

[noseall]

Give it neck mate and go self employed. At least then you'll only have yourself to rely on and yourself to blame.

 

[^woody^]

For a transfer within the same company, which involves a new probationary period, it is important to define what will happen if you fail the probation - ideally it should be extension of the probation, otherwise demotion, reassignment or transfer back to the old role, and not dismissal. Find out.

There are exceptions to the two year employment threshold for bringing unfair dismissal claims. The most significant exception is for discriminatory dismissal, for which has no qualifying period.

Another is if the employer has not followed their own procedures for dismissal and the procedures are contractual. If the employer has not excluded their procedures from the first two years of employment a contract exists, and then its a breach of contract and claims can be brought at anytime.

Employers tend to know about the exceptions so don't dismiss willy-nilly.

 

[Notch7]

Good Evening folks

I hope you're all well and a very happy new year to you all !!

Can someone kindly give advice on the issue I have at work please?

I have been working full time in the finance dept. for a private company on a permanent basis for the last 18 months, having passed their initial 3 month probation.

However, last October, a job opportunity came up in their accounts dept. and I moved into this new dept. after having a chat with my line manager and financial controller. I was put on a 3 month probation again, and trained up quite quickly and made my own notes (regarding how to perform my job related tasks) as we went along. However, i am still a bit rusty on some of the tasks and have made several mistakes. I have requested my line manager to sit down with me again, so that I can correct my notes and fill in any gaps in my knowledge. The manager keeps on saying that there is a large work load for her to get through and if I have any issues then to raise them at my work review meeting which will be take place in about 2 weeks time, when my 3 month probation will end.

If in that meeting, the manager argues that I have been given all the necessary training, and should be up to speed with performing my designated tasks (which I am not) and consequently decides to fire me, do I have grounds for appeal? Or, do you think it be better just to collect my belongings and work out of the building?

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Have you been that bad at your job? Everybody makes mistakes.

You havent said your line manager is not happy with your work, only that he/she was too busy to provide training but to bring it up at your apprsisal.

Do you feel you fit in with the team in your department? Usually there is a reason for people to worry about being 'let go'.

 

[motorbiking]

Find a copy of how to win friends and influence people by dale Carnegie. Have a read, despite it being nearly 100 years old, you will find all sorts of strategies to get people to like you and enjoy working with you.

 

[noseall]

you will find all sorts of strategies to get people to like you and enjoy working with you.

I got three copies of that book for Christmas???

 

[Mottie]

Did you read any of them.

 

[conny]

...….Under the 2010 Equality Act, an employee is protected from discrimination. You should not be discriminated against on the grounds of your disability. It also means that your employer should make reasonable adjustments to help you at work.

You are also "protected from discrimination by association...…", which means if you have carer duties for a disabled person you have certain rights but it seems some employers won't accept the truth even when government paperwork is put before them.

 

[durhamplumber]

You don't really have any rights within the first 2 years. They can fire you for wearing brown shoes if they want. The probation period is irrelevant.
However, and don't take this the wrong way, but if you suffer with autism or a learning disability, Under the 2010 Equality Act, an employee is protected from discrimination. You should not be discriminated against on the grounds of your disability. It also means that your employer should make reasonable adjustments to help you at work.

"Reasonable"is always going to be the debatable issue

 

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