Give Boris Some Credit

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government voted in on their ability to lie and spin......only have the skills to lie and spin
Your spin on events.your obsession..your twisting of reality.Stop being silly Notch..It was voted on,debated 24/7 for at least 3 years,the whole country talked about it...To put it down to a bit of lie and spin is incredibly stupid and naive.
 
0800 Wednesday, grant applied for & confirmed, be in bank within 6 days, good work Rishi & co if little slow
 
Not at all.One can start a goal from numerous start points and achieve the same objective.

You're right, durhamplumber, one can start from numerous positions and achieve the same ends.
But my argument was that, by design or accident, you can find yourself in such a position that it is either not possible to achieve your goals, or the routes to achieving those goals are severely limited, or the available routes are so tortuous to be considered unacceptable.
If one of your customers ask you to install an appliance in the shed at the bottom of the garden, it may not be possible, or there may be limited options of achieving that objective, or the cost of such an installation makes it prohibitive.
 
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fillys poll is a month old. How the mighty have fallen - off a cliff. Poor old BHS.

Fellow European leaders laughed at him before. They are pi$$ing themselves at his poor showing regards Covid. Sick man of Europe.
Roll on the next GE eh? I bet you can’t wait to see Starmer sweep into power with a massive majority and get this country back on track. :rolleyes:
 
.To put it down to a bit of lie and spin is incredibly stupid and naive.
this government only won because they duped the public by lies and propaganda
that is it

and you are correct: you were incredibly stupid and naive, because you fell for it

you were sold the idea that boris is on the side of the people, that he was fighting for democracy, he used the manipulation of nationalism and populism to achieve it, basic strategies like creating a common enemy.

you voted for something where you cant even state one benefit -and you did so because you were manipulated.
 
Roll on the next GE eh? I bet you can’t wait to see Starmer sweep into power with a massive majority and get this country back on track. :rolleyes:
we've got Johnson for 10 years, Trump for another 5 -politics is such that the liars are winning.

the rich will get richer, there will be more poverty
this pandemic may bring about change but it wont be quick -those people like you that have been taken for a mug wont be able to accept it easily.
 
As I said somewhere before. I voted for Johnson purely on the Brexit ticket. He and the rest of the bumbling idiots in this government have made a complete b ollox of handling this pandemic and they now need to resign on mass. I don't know who can replace them but they have to go and take the orange idiot with them. I know pie in the sky but you never know.
 
Yep, they have mucked this whole thing up completely. It would be laughable if lives weren't involved..

This mornings ones.. schools can go back 1st June. Teachers and councils say this isn't possible for various reasons so again, the gov haven't even bothered to talk logistics/feasibility with teachers before the announcement. Then, we are allowed outside to meet up with one friend/family member, keep 6ft apart and also go outside for as long as we like because the rate of transmission outside is less. But today I read that we are allowed to go view houses for buying/renting. That's strangers in your home/us looking at a strangers home - inside - every room, not in the fresh air.

None of this, as all along, is about our safety. It's about the economy pure and simple. Just waiting for the time they reopen pubs and expect drunk people to social distance, ha ha ha ha.
 
ha ha ha ha.
Disturbing you find the government struggling to cope with an unpresedented pandemic funny...Would like to have just one day of all you armchair experts running the country and not having the foggiest idea.
 
Disturbing you find the government struggling to cope with an unpresedented pandemic funny...Would like to have just one day of all you armchair experts running the country and not having the foggiest idea.
Don't be a ****. It's sarcasm. Thought that would've been bleeding obvious if you read it in context.
 
and you are correct: you were incredibly stupid and naive, because you fell for it
Along with huge sections of the population....If that is your coping mechanism Notch,crack on.....
 
Don't be a ****. It's sarcasm. Thought that would've been bleeding obvious if you read it in context.
That is why the pubs will not be opening any time soon....Stupid sober people cannot stick to the rules and use common sense,they need govt to wipe their backside and tell them when to breath
 
That's strangers in your home/us looking at a strangers home - inside - every room, not in the fresh air.
They are looking at ways of achieving this safely..Not a done deal...Pick pick pick is all the armchair pseudo bloody experts can do.
 
That is why the pubs will not be opening any time soon....
And I would've thought the same would've applied to schools....
We are still losing hundreds of people a day. It's too early to end lockdown. We can live without shopping for plants etc for another 3 weeks or so, Wales and Scotland can see it's too early and those places aren't as cramped as England.
 
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