Derek Chauvin. Guilty.

[Nige F]

That copper has been found guilty of George Floyds death. I think they reached the right verdict.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-56721011

I watched "the moment he learned his fate" blinking and swivelling eyes

 

[crystal ball]

So was John Christie, then there is the recent Met case. There are good and bad in all walks of life.

I thought Christie was in the army then a series of jobs, not a copper

 

[just pumps]

In the same way that MPs would be offended if, for example, they were told that they could no longer help themselves to public funds for duck houses or moat renovations. Or if anybody suggested that a government minister should not facilitate millions of pounds of business for his neighbour or local pub landlord, or a PM should not give peerages to his old school chums, or brother.

I know it is difficult for you but keeping your comments on topic would benefit the forum greatly!

 

[festive]

Sad for everyone involved won't ever bring him back. Can anyone expand on the fact whilst in the car he was repeatedly saying 'i can't breathe' what was that all about

 

[Lower]

Sad for everyone involved won't ever bring him back. Can anyone expand on the fact whilst in the car he was repeatedly saying 'i can't breathe' what was that all about

That was exactly what he was saying, claiming he was claustrophobic. However, the defence made the point that people being arrested regularly make all sorts of claims about medical issues to try and get the police to let them go or allow them to escape.

My nature is to look for the best in people, so i still find it difficult to believe that Chauvin intentionally killed George Floyd. I want to believe that Chauvin was unnecessarily aggressive in his method of restraint, possibly because he wanted to cause pain and discomfort, but that George Floyd's death was accidental.

However, no matter how much i'd like to believe his death was accidental, you can't get away from the fact that had Chauvin knelt on his back as he was trained to do and not on his neck, George Floyd probably wouldn't have died. Consequently, being found guilty of some sort of culpable homicide was really the only possible logical outcome.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I thought Christie was in the army then a series of jobs, not a copper

He was in the police as a special during WWII.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/nostalgia/crimelibrary/johnchristie/

Paragraph #6

'Again officers from the Met visited the address, 10, Rillington Place, Notting Hill, but found nothing except a stolen brief case in Evans’ flat. Evans was charged with stealing it and brought to London. So far there was nothing to prove there had been any murder, and Christie, a former Special Constable, told them the whole story was crazy, and that Timothy Evans was a known liar – which he certainly was.'

 

[JohnD]

I know it is difficult for you but keeping your comments on topic would benefit the forum greatly!

even more difficult for people like mottie and you.

 

[Notch7]

That was exactly what he was saying, claiming he was claustrophobic. However, the defence made the point that people being arrested regularly make all sorts of claims about medical issues to try and get the police to let them go or allow them to escape.

My nature is to look for the best in people, so i still find it difficult to believe that Chauvin intentionally killed George Floyd. I want to believe that Chauvin was unnecessarily aggressive in his method of restraint, possibly because he wanted to cause pain and discomfort, but that George Floyd's death was accidental.

However, no matter how much i'd like to believe his death was accidental, you can't get away from the fact that had Chauvin knelt on his back as he was trained to do and not on his neck, George Floyd probably wouldn't have died. Consequently, being found guilty of some sort of culpable homicide was really the only possible logical outcome.

Good points.

I think because police get lied to so much and face constant abuse, they become desensitised to people's feelings.

In America the police face the constant risk of being shot, that must tend to make them more aggressive towards suspects.

Did Chauvin have sadistic intent? We don't know, but he didn't need to knee him for that length of time.

 

[just pumps]

even more difficult for people like mottie and you.

Me? That just goes to show how little of my posts you read. Quote me one example of me muck raking old rubbish up without you mis quoting or twisting a post of mine.
Now getting back on track ...........................

 

[JohnD]

Me?

Oh, do you think you always keep on topic, then?

 

[Mottie]

Sad for everyone involved won't ever bring him back. Can anyone expand on the fact whilst in the car he was repeatedly saying 'i can't breathe' what was that all about

Although the copper overstepped the mark by the use of his knee and being found guilty was the correct verdict in my mind, there’s just one thing I can’t understand. On all the first aid courses I’ve been on, the one thing we are told in the event of a major incident where triage is needed is to leave those that are screaming and shouting because, and this is the term that is often used, that is if they are talking, they are breathing. That’s the only thing I can’t understand about this "I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe" part of it.

 

[crystal ball]

He was in the police as a special during WWII.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/nostalgia/crimelibrary/johnchristie/

Paragraph #6

'Again officers from the Met visited the address, 10, Rillington Place, Notting Hill, but found nothing except a stolen brief case in Evans’ flat. Evans was charged with stealing it and brought to London. So far there was nothing to prove there had been any murder, and Christie, a former Special Constable, told them the whole story was crazy, and that Timothy Evans was a known liar – which he certainly was.'

Not really a career copper then

 

[johnny2007]

Legislation against opinions?
It's called imprisoning your political opponents in other countries.

Here we go!
I missed you

 

[^woody^]

Curiously, Biden praises a guilty verdict ...

"At least now there is some justice."
"A giant step forward in the march toward justice in America". WTF? I can't get my breath.

This implies that a 'not guilty' verdict in a fair trial of his peers would not have been "justice" and would have been wrong, and therefore the copper must have been guilty right from the start even before the trial began.

Or is Biden saying that his own system of justice is not in fact fair and err just?

So there is only one type of 'justice' and that is the justice of the mob. Just like the leftie justice of the Twitter and FB mob then, if they say you are guilty, then you are guilty.

 

[JohnD]

So there is only one type of 'justice' and that is the justice of the mob.

Actually, this was courtroom justice. The verdict was reached by a jury, the sentence was delivered by a judge in accordance with the law of the land.

I notice you don't like that.