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I hear there are no better deals on the market.

Compared to sticking with my supplier, Utility Warehouse is a much better deal, but their site only offers E + G + phone packages, I don't want phone. Ringing them, they say they have a no phone package, but I would rather see the T&C's online first, before committing.
 
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I think it derives from the fact that gas wholesale has increased by x5 and that only part of the e-generation cost as increased, the part generated by gas when renewables cannot cope - unless you have an alternative suggestion as to why?
I suppose so, but given that gas represents the lion's share of non-'renewable' electricity generation, I would have expected it's price to have a major impact on electricity prices.

Kind Regards, John
 
I suppose so, but given that gas represents the lion's share of non-'renewable' electricity generation, I would have expected it's price to have a major impact on electricity prices.

Kind Regards, John

The E increased cost seems to be commensurate with the current level of gas generation - gas is generating about 1/3rd of the power and the E increase is around 1/3 to 1/2.
 
The E increased cost seems to be commensurate with the current level of gas generation - gas is generating about 1/3rd of the power and the E increase is around 1/3 to 1/2.
Today, yes. As I speak, gas accounts for 30.58%, but that is probably because it's a pretty windy day, with currently 34.9% coming from wind. I think it would be more normal for gas to account for appreciably more than half.

However, I take your point 'in general'.

Kind Regards, John
 
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And our friends the French are considering chopping off their electric feed to the uk because we don’t agree either demands for fishing quotas. :mad:
 
what a shame we decided to resign from our close partnership, and institute divorce proceedings.
 
And our friends the French are considering chopping off their electric feed to the uk because we don’t agree either demands for fishing quotas. :mad:
I thought it blew up, was incinerated or whatever, a week or three ago? Presumably not completely, given that France is currently (a minute or two ago) supplying about 2.8% of our demand (as are Holland)...

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I wonder (but without much hope!) whether what is currently going on might lead to the end of the seemingly (to me!) rather ridiculous (and contrived/'abstract') situation in which we can choose who to pay for the same energy product? The small companies presumably can only survive if they can afford to offer cheaper prices than the big boys (and thereby attract customers) - and one imagines that, at the present time, they are not really in a position to do that :)

Kind Regards, John
 
I wonder (but without much hope!) whether what is currently going on might lead to the end of the seemingly (to me!) rather ridiculous (and contrived/'abstract') situation in which we can choose who to pay for the same energy product? The small companies presumably can only survive if they can afford to offer cheaper prices than the big boys (and thereby attract customers) - and one imagines that, at the present time, they are not really in a position to do that

I guess the major problem all of the suppliers face, is people like me, on fixed price tariff contracts. There are not many suppliers now offering new fixed price contracts.
 
I guess the major problem all of the suppliers face, is people like me, on fixed price tariff contracts. There are not many suppliers now offering new fixed price contracts.
Indeed - and when most/all customers are on variable-rate tariffs, and given that the government-imposed 'cap' on such tariffs is currently lower than the actual fuel cost, all suppliers will presumably set their prices at that 'cap' figure, so that everyone will be paying exactly the same?

If so, at least a lot simpler, saving vast amounts of time/effort 'shopping around' and even removing the commissions presumably currently paid to the 'comparison websites' - but, in other senses, perhaps not quite so desirable!

Kind Regards, John!
 
I guess the major problem all of the suppliers face, is people like me, on fixed price tariff contracts.
Sensible suppliers will have hedged against price rises when selling fixed-price contracts. Of course not all suppliers were sensible. Ten suupliers have representing abou 1.75 million customers have gone broke this summer. I'm not 100% sure how the "supplier of last resort" process works but I understand that the cost of supplying these customers at a loss (since the price they are paying on the deemed contract will be lower than the wholesale price) will be spread over the energy industry as a whole.

The cuurent situation is clearly unsustainable, if wholesale prices don't drop then at some point either retail prices will have to rise significantly or the whole industry will go broke.
 
If so, at least a lot simpler, saving vast amounts of time/effort 'shopping around' and even removing the commissions presumably currently paid to the 'comparison websites' - but, in other senses, perhaps not quite so desirable!

I use the MSE site, which only makes money from some suppliers, but lists them all. It is chaos on that at the moment.
 
I use the MSE site, which only makes money from some suppliers, but lists them all. It is chaos on that at the moment.
Fair enough, but there are plenty of comparison/switching sites around, most/all of which are presumably getting money from at least some suppliers - so that is bound to have some impact on the 'overall' cost of energy. In any event, it doesn't alter my feelings about the bizarre situation we have (and with far more than just energy) which allows one to choose who one pays for the same product!

Interestingly, the current chaos/crisis does not seem to be affecting LPG. My current (2-year fixed) contract with Calor comes to an end next month, and I have yet to be able to ascertain what they would/will be offering beyond that. I've therefore been 'looking around' and I've just received an offer from Avantis Gas (which used to be Shell Gas, and prior to that "Shell & BP Gas") for a 2-year fixed contract at 35.5p per litre (about 5p per kWh) (excluding VAT) for the entire 2 years - which is actually fractionally lower than what I am currently paying Calor.

Kind Regards, John
 
Interestingly, the current chaos/crisis does not seem to be affecting LPG. My current (2-year fixed) contract with Calor comes to an end next month, and I have yet to be able to ascertain what they would/will be offering beyond that. I've therefore been 'looking around' and I've just received an offer from Avantis Gas (which used to be Shell Gas, and prior to that "Shell & BP Gas") for a 2-year fixed contract at 35.5p per litre (about 5p per kWh) (excluding VAT) for the entire 2 years - which is actually fractionally lower than what I am currently paying Calor.

That may prove to be much cheaper than the pipe in gas.
 
That may prove to be much cheaper than the pipe in gas.
It might, and it would be nice (for me!) to have 'the tables reversed' for once! The fact that they are offering me that price fixed for 2 years (plus, incidentally, a £100 'gas credit' if I swap to them) presumably means that they are reasonably confident that the cost of LPG is not going to soar over at least that timespan.

Kind Regards, John
 

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