The whole honors system needs to be abolished, including the House of Lords.
Tony Blair is now Sir Tony.
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According to Chilcot, the case for war was presented with certainty which was unwarranted.
He also said that any other reasonable person who read the intelligence reports that Blair claimed to have read would have come to a different conclusion, so was Blair having comprehension problems on the days he read these reports, or did he decide that if he told the truth, then he might not get the support he needed to go to war.
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The problem with politics in so called democracies, is that there is no penalty for failure.
Politicians routinely lie and don't worry about being found to be lying.
If they get sacked they usually have another job waiting in the private sector, provided by some benefactor in return for services rendered by them while in office.
Politicians routinely lie and don't worry about being found to be lying.
If they get sacked they usually have another job waiting in the private sector, provided by some benefactor in return for services rendered by them while in office.
Blair killed more people than Saddam.
The only thing he achieved by turning the middle east upside down was to allow the Iranians to become even more powerful.
As for gassing people, he was aided and abetted by the Americans.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/2...rove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/
Untrue.
the Iraq war would’ve happened anyway without Blairs support.
also the public supported the Iraq war, so you are just engaging in revisionism
I notice you conveniently ignore Blairs military interventions in Kosovo and Sierra Leone
And the UK would have been left with it's head held high had it refused to participate in an illegal war...
The poodle however doesn't have the balls to say no to america!
And the public were told lies in order to gain that 'support'...
And when those lies were exposed where did that 'support' end up?
You of all people should understand the folly of your ways when believing the lies you are told in order to get your 'support'
WRONG
support was high before that.
you seem to forget Saddam invaded Kuwait and the British public remember
Short memories some people. Must be their age.
Blare supporting the war? At the time the then Tory leader was asked if he did too - yes he said. Unusual for one to be so clear.
What it was really about - doubt if we will ever know. When Saddam was at war with Iran he was a western hero. He invaded Kuwait, Bush senior is reckoned to have some feelings about Iraq. Kuwait was down to oil squabbles. A well know retired politician when asked about the eventual invasion mentioned the obvious reason oil. For instance Saddam wanted price increases and had for some time. Debt. When at it with Iran he had a lot of USA aid. Probably from others as well.
What it was really about - doubt if we will ever know. When Saddam was at war with Iran he was a western hero. He invaded Kuwait, Bush senior is reckoned to have some feelings about Iraq. Kuwait was down to oil squabbles. A well know retired politician when asked about the eventual invasion mentioned the obvious reason oil. For instance Saddam wanted price increases and had for some time. Debt. When at it with Iran he had a lot of USA aid. Probably from others as well.
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Let's differentiate between regaining Kuwait, and invading Iraq.
Well lets face it in some respects that Iraq war was good for bussiness 
all the arms manus , cruise missiles at half a million a pop etc
private security firms .
agreed they never found weapons of mass destruction , mistakes happen
all the arms manus , cruise missiles at half a million a pop etc private security firms .
agreed they never found weapons of mass destruction , mistakes happen
You can't. ) Well suppose you could with no good reason really. Him threatening to gas etc Israel probably didn't help either. Not that this means he would have.
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You can, apart from them being about 12 years apart.
The first war was about liberating Kuwait, the second was a concoction of propaganda.
If the public "supported" the Iraq war, it was because they were systematically lied to by Blair and others.
If the public were misled into believing that Putin was preparing to drop a nuclear bomb on them, they would probably support war against Russia.
