Excess Deaths... Links required for any Covid references.
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So, thanks to vaccinations COVID is now killing very few people, and disproportionately the unvaccinated? But other people are dying at a higher rate than we'd expect perhaps in part due to the way that COVID prevented and limited the NHS during the peak of the pandemic?
That sounds about right. Of course we'd need to identify who is dying because of delays and who's dying with delays. After all the NHS is under staffed and social care failures means that hospital beds are very hard to find.
That sounds about right. Of course we'd need to identify who is dying because of delays and who's dying with delays. After all the NHS is under staffed and social care failures means that hospital beds are very hard to find.
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Perhaps ellals 'Doctor' sons could help with that.
We're looking at all this with hindsight. Rightly or wrongly, when it was all kicking off, they didn't want to take the risk of us freely moving about in case it significantly increased infections and death.
I don't blame them for erring on the side of caution.
I don't blame them for erring on the side of caution.
I don’t believe Ellal has ever used the term 'doctor'. The word 'mecic' was used so for all we know they could be nurse.
Think you better do a wee bit more googling and put the actual adjusted figures up
The NHS is in a terrible state, understaffed and under equipped.
Ambulances are unable to offload patients into hospitals that are full, up.
Our population is ageing, and old people need more care, more often, and for longer, which increases the workload.
Nobody can do anything about the workload of an ageing demographic.
Unfortunately, we have also had twelve years of Tory government which dislikes public services, especially the NHS.
Ambulances are unable to offload patients into hospitals that are full, up.
Our population is ageing, and old people need more care, more often, and for longer, which increases the workload.
Nobody can do anything about the workload of an ageing demographic.
Unfortunately, we have also had twelve years of Tory government which dislikes public services, especially the NHS.
The reasons for lockdowns is blindingly obvious yet some choose to ignore what is a very simple fact.
The NHS has a finite size and can only cope with so many people at any one time. Lots of people went in and were treated and came out. It's a fact especially in the early days that the only way some one would get admitted is due to having dangerously low oxygen blood levels. Deaths would have been significantly higher if they couldn't be treated.
So the gov decided to rabbit on about saving the NHS without for some reason explaining what that means in practice. Perhaps they thought this aspect was obvious. Seems it's not to some and not that many either.
The NHS has a finite size and can only cope with so many people at any one time. Lots of people went in and were treated and came out. It's a fact especially in the early days that the only way some one would get admitted is due to having dangerously low oxygen blood levels. Deaths would have been significantly higher if they couldn't be treated.
So the gov decided to rabbit on about saving the NHS without for some reason explaining what that means in practice. Perhaps they thought this aspect was obvious. Seems it's not to some and not that many either.
You can provide a link to this source of information, yes?
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Makes sense though. Maybe it's because older people that avoid cancer and cardio issues will die of things like pneumonia, flu, falls etc. 2 years of isolation protected them from these risks as well as covid. Now they are getting exposed again.
I'd say it is too soon to really know what the impact is. Wait 5 years and see how things look.
And let's be grateful that for most of us life is back to normal, and many of us, and our families, survived covid, while millions perished.
I'd say it is too soon to really know what the impact is. Wait 5 years and see how things look.
And let's be grateful that for most of us life is back to normal, and many of us, and our families, survived covid, while millions perished.
Nope, every time you've posted them up it conforms that the vaccine works, and that you don't understand statistics. I don't think it's worth wasting time again.
Is that life is back to normal or the new normal?
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