Mismatched MCBs C2 or C3?

Any properly trained and qualified spark would not consider it for anything other than a temporary emergency measure to restore power to for example a life support machine, or a pump that is preventing a well overflowing and causing major flooding etc, to give chance to obtain and return with the correct device.
I'm not sure where you've been. Even though you are an electrician, whereas I am not (although I have always taken an interest in such things), over the years and decades even I have seen countless domestic CUs containing mixed-brand devices and I can but presume that most were installed by 'electricians' (since few DIYers would contemplate doing such work).
Electrical work should be subject to the same type of rules and regulation as gas work. Part P of the building Regs was a very poor attempt at introducing some kind of control. England saw it wasn't working and backed down on it in 2010 releasing some of the constraints, however Wales didn't so you now have the confusion of 2 versions in force depending in some cases which side of the road you are working on.
2013, actually. I can understand that view. However, as you say, I imagine that Part P was 'almost eliminated' (in England) after only about 8 years because it was apparent that it was not actually achieving anything significant. I think the issue is that there are (surprisingly) so few domestic deaths and serious injuries due to electricity, with only a small proportion of those being attributable to work by unqualified (and not supervised) people that there is very little scope for any sort of regulation to 'improve' the situation much.

However, for what it's worth, I do share (in relation to those who undertake paid electrical work and, particular, those who perform EICRs) your view that such people should be fairly rigorously regulated/registered/licensed/whatever, noit the least so that those who fell short of a reasonable level of competence (and 'integrity') could be prevented from continuing tio try to oractise the trade.
 
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Does that mean, as I have suggested several times, that the products of different manufacturers are subject to the same tests using the same criteria thus meaning that, if they fit, they are, in fact, compatible?

This could obviously be why some don't fit together - to intentionally prevent it.
 
From 1973 to 2019 (40+ years) I works as both a domestic and industrial electrician, although mainly industrial. That's where I've been!
Fair enough - but in that 40+ years did you not see a lot of domestic CUs with mixed-rand devices that had been installed by 'qualified electricians'? ... or did you perhaps not do enough domestic work to see that?

I've certainly talked to domestic electricians who 'do it', and what they usually say is that they only carry spares in their vans for a limited number of what they regard as the 'most popular' CUs - so if they come across the need for a device for some other brand of CU, they 'see what they have in their van that will fit'.
 
Does that mean, as I have suggested several times, that the products of different manufacturers are subject to the same tests using the same criteria thus meaning that, if they fit, they are, in fact, compatible?
I answered the same question from you recently.

No, it does not mean that, since the underlying belief appears to be that devices, or combinations of devices, which 'test satisfactorily' in one CU may not test satisfactorily in a different CU and/or when mixed up with devices of a different brand.

I understand the theoretical argument but I really do struggle to believe that it is a significant issue in practice.
 
I answered the same question from you recently.
Yes, but we have new members now.

No, it does not mean that, since the underlying belief appears to be that devices, or combinations of devices, which 'test satisfactorily' in one CU may not test satisfactorily in a different CU and/or when mixed up with devices of a different brand.
How can that be if the same tests and criteria are used?
 
Of all the wrong make of mcb fitted (perfect fits) in a different make board over the last 20 years, does anybody know of any issues that occurred from it?
 
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Does that mean, as I have suggested several times, that the products of different manufacturers are subject to the same tests using the same criteria thus meaning that, if they fit, they are, in fact, compatible?

This could obviously be why some don't fit together - to intentionally prevent it.
Yes mate. That is what should happen. Mine is an older version of 61439. but this is what Clause 10 states, the relevant bit highlighted.
 

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Yes, but we have new members now.
Fair enough!
How can that be if the same tests and criteria are used?
It's the same tests but on different combinations of devices and enclosures. Although, as I've said, it all seems fairly 'far-fetched' to me, I suppose some believe (I suppose correctly!) that nothing which is theoretically possible can ever be totally impossible in practice.

However, as I've said, despite often asking, I have yet to come across anyone who has seen a problem which was probably due to a (satisfactorily fitting and 'properly installed') device being of the 'wrong brand'.
 
Yes, but if my theory is correct there will be no adverse effect.
I don't agree or disagree, I am saying what the standards require.

I understand individuals don't have the resources or finances to carry out all the tests and understand that they will circumvent them. But it doesn't change the actual requirements or responsibilities.
 

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