Woman and Sex, means biological sex.

[JohnD]

You've contradicted yourself there.

No I haven't.

 

[morqthana]

And yet you don't like the sex of all the others being recorded, as a biological fact, which it is.

There you use "sex" to mean sex.

Just in case, at some future date, they decide they want to call themselves ... a person of a sex they do not have.

And there you don't.

You will take care, won't you, not to say "man" when you mean "male".

You will take care, won't you, not to say "male" when you mean "man".

You will take care, won't you, not to say "woman" when you mean "female".

You will take care, won't you, not to say "female" when you mean "woman".

You will take care, won't you, not to say "sex" when you mean "gender".

 

[morqthana]

Are you a trans person?

No.

Although what difference does that make?

I'm not Jewish, but I know that I antisemitism is wrong.

I'm not Muslim, but I know that Islamophobia is wrong.

I'm not "foreign", but I know that xenophobia is wrong.

I know these things are wrong because I am intelligent and civilised.

 

[JohnD]

And there you don't.

Wrong.

A "woman" is an adult human female.

A "kitten" is a juvenile feline.

If you aren't one, whatever you call yourself, as a whim, doesn't turn you into one.

 

[morqthana]

No I haven't.

You said that gender is a feeling, an opinion, or a whim.

If that is what you believe then you have to believe that changing it is exactly what someone can do.

If you want to claim that gender is a "fact" then you can't say it's a feeling, an opinion, or a whim.

 

[JohnD]

You said that gender is a feeling, an opinion, or a whim.

That is a popular current usage of the word.

If you call yourself a kitten, you aren't really one, and we all know it's not real.

A kitten, or a woman, is a fact, not a whim. And you can't become one if you are not.

Thinking does not make it so.

 

[Koolpc]

That's it - you pretend that anything you don't like, or don't understand, or causes you confusion, or indeed in any way conflicts with the cosy fictional reality you have constructed within your brain, which does not have the capacity to deal with contradictory facts, is an illness.

Look at those parades. Look at the way those people behave. How they look. You actually think that is normal? Really? You actually think they are sane people?

 

[Koolpc]

I know these things are wrong because I am intelligent and civilised.

 

[Justin Passing]

If you want to claim that gender is a "fact" then you can't say it's a feeling, an opinion, or a whim.

It's not a fact, it's subjective.

Your rhetoric is littered with straw-man arguments apparently to support your putting yourself on some moral high ground of your own invention.
All you're doing is trying - and failing effectively - to nit pick . Troll.

At every turn you lose more credibility and respect.
Whatever position you're aiming at, you will never achieve it by contrived criticism of others.

 

[Notch7]

Wrong.

A "woman" is an adult human female.

A "kitten" is a juvenile feline.

If you aren't one, whatever you call yourself, as a whim, doesn't turn you into one.

Gender is a social construct, so nobody can decide what a persons gender is…..so it’s not possible to to say whether a person is a she or a he.

the word woman has been decided by the court as referring to biological sex, so the word woman is not referring to gender any more.

 

[blup]

It is totally unreasonable if they are wanted for religious reasons.

I said women only

By definition, religious beliefs have no reason attached to them.

Like Jedi

Please provide the medical evidence showing that the treatments for transitioning men do not increase their risk of breast cancer.

Probably higher, and for transitioning women also. Are you suggesting that a woman should transitions should get less care ie what biological men get. It’s an argument that over complicates itself, just provide a care plan based on the evidence.

Please provide the medical evidence showing that trans women do not have a higher risk of breast cancer than cis men,

As above

"took the view" ... "no objective proportionate justification" ... "was interpreted to mean" ...

You seem to think that people not doing something properly means that the something should no longer be done.

No I'm questioning whether it should be done in the first place, your argument is predicated on there being no difference between biological sex and gender. That’s how the prisoner got transferred. Nobody thought that there could any adverse consequences and in doing so missed the bleedin’ obvious.

I tend to the view that it's the "not doing it properly" which should be addressed.



But you don't do that.

You do it on the basis of a proper risk assessment, and robust criteria for determining if a transition is real.

You seem to think that people not doing something properly means that the something should no longer be done.

I tend to the view that it's the "not doing it properly" which should be addressed.

Equality for the sexes has never meant they are identical in all respects, it’s a dsngerous and false assumption.
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[diy_fun_uk]

And...?

Trying to equate this to the struggle black people went through with segregation is nothing short of ludicrous, and insulting to black people.

 

[Odds]

That is a popular current usage of the word.

If you call yourself a kitten, you aren't really one, and we all know it's not real.

A kitten, or a woman, is a fact, not a whim. And you can't become one if you are not.

Thinking does not make it so.

Where does an androgynous person stand on your scale?

 

[JohnD]

Where does an androgynous person stand on your scale?

Depends what you mean. What do you mean? A hermaphrodite?

 

[Notch7]

morqthana appears to be Himmie

so anybody replying should bear that in mind