Woman and Sex, means biological sex.

[Odds]

Depends what you mean. What do you mean? A hermaphrodite?

Well, you maintain a 'man is a man' etc. and neglect the inconvenient fact that dna is mixed up in weird ways within some people to the extent they aren't easily put into one category or another. The legal beagles are tying themselves in knots in this attempt to broaden the legal cover for trans-folk - should the law be maintained for the majority of 'normal' people in this country or continue in this attempt to make the law work for everybody?

 

[JohnD]

So you ask a question but you can't say what you mean.

 

[denso13]

Does that include the cases where surgery is used to change physical characteristics and drug therapies are used to change chemical processes inside the body, to result in a baby which then passes all the tests required for it to be whatever sex they decided it should be made into?

Making stuff up doesn't help your case.

 

[Koolpc]

I have scientifically been proven as a 100% male Corgi!!! Woof!

 

[MNW67]

I left the TV with the snooker on. When I walked back in, Politics Live was on. I haven't watched it for years because I no longer follow the news or politics on TV. But just by chance they were having a discussion about the Supreme Court ruling. It was actually pretty good. It should be on iPlayer soon.

Far from clearing things up, this court case might have caused unintended consequences regarding how businesses will respond in practice. A discrimination barrister, who seemed to know their stuff, was saying it will probably mean many fewer single sex toilets etc. Instead they will be converted to gender neutral. This is because, as the law stands, that will be the only way for businesses to make sure they don't get sued by one side or the other. The barrister also discussed the background to the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and how it was forced on the UK by the European Court of Human Rights and how we will almost certainly end up back in that court again following the ruling.

BBC Two - Politics Live, 22/04/2025

The Supreme Court rules on the definition of a woman, and the local elections.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[MNW67]

I have scientifically been proven as a 100% male Corgi!!! Woof!

Presumably, you are still intact!

 

[Brigadier]

Presumably, you are still intact!

Apart from the obvious "screw loose", you mean?

 

[morqthana]

Look at those parades. Look at the way those people behave. How they look. You actually think that is normal? Really? You actually think they are sane people?

I think that being different is not equivalent to being insane.

I think that me not understanding why someone does something does not make them insane.

I think that people doing things which have zero effect on me is none of my business.

I think that I am not qualified to diagnose mental illnesses.

I think all of these things because I am intelligent.

Those who are not intelligent will, I agree, struggle to understand what is the way they should view things.

 

[Odds]

So you ask a question but you can't say what you mean.

Seems clear enough to me - trans-men are expected to use public facilities as men under new law: do you not see a problem with this new ruling?

 

[Koolpc]

Presumably, you are still intact!

All there! Lol

 

[fixitflav]

Why on earth do you think I might be saying that?

You're the one who's saying sex is not binary, but "assigned" (not recorded) at birth. How would you decide what sex to assign it to, if not the obvious, and how would you describe it? (apart from certain medical conditions, as discussed)

 

[Koolpc]

Apart from the obvious "screw loose", you mean?

Woof?!!!

 

[Koolpc]

I think all of these things because I am intelligent.

 

[fixitflav]

morqthana appears to be Himmie

so anybody replying should bear that in mind

And his trolling about sex at birth being non-binary has little to do with the recent court judgment anyway. As somebody pointed out, the great majority of trans and aspiring trans people are biologically male or female.

 

[fixitflav]

We need to see what the investigation establishes is the truth about the behaviour. But in the meantime it is worth reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Concern#Ideology_and_issues about the organisation which is "supporting" the nurses.

I can't see anything relevant in that link.
Of course you can play down the seriousness if it suits your argument. Contrarily, maybe there are more egregious cases that haven't made it into the media.