Climate Change

[MNW67]

Almost certainly but likely not as rapidly, it wouldn't be "man-made", and it would be inevitable.

The thing with ACC, it could be slowed, stopped, or even reversed, if we wanted to.

It wouldn't have happened for thousands of years, though. Before the industrial revolution, we were in the middle of a natural cooling phase lasting many thousands of years.

 

[pete01]

Arrr so I cant call the scumbags a scumbag but they can call it whoever they like....

This place honestly.....pppfftttt

 

[pete01]

A good starting point might be to look at the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. Before the industrial revolution it was 280ppm. But since humans started burning vast quantities of fossil fuels, it has gone up by more than 50% to 430ppm. I don't believe there is anybody who disputes that we have caused that increase.

So, the next question is whether that increase in CO2 has caused the earth's temperature to increase.

Like I said who knows, probably not

 

[Highway Man]

I do usually talk the most sense...

I know

 

[Highway Man]

Arrr so I cant call the scumbags a scumbag but they can call it whoever they like....

This place honestly.....pppfftttt

You done?

 

[pete01]

You done?

Yeah

 

[Highway Man]

Yeah

I know

 

[pete01]

I know

I changed my mind I'm not done

 

[Notch7]

Pete actually came up with, he wonders if global warming would have occurred without us causing it or being blamed for it

Well we are technically still in an ice age which started 2.6 million years ago. The current period is the Holocene, a warm period that started 12,000 years ago.

So yes I guess some global warming would possibly have occurred naturally…..but over thousands of years not 200.

 

[Notch7]

I changed my mind

A bit like members of the Reform party

 

[Lirefighter]

It makes sense, though. If warm waters move to one area of the globe, then the waters in other areas will be cooler.

Here is a chart:

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Ah, the classic hockey stick.
What temperature is that even estimating from 10000 years ago, as it doesn't say.
Also, why has a specific 29 years been taken as a base?

 

[pete01]

A bit like members of the Reform party

Or Brexit voters

 

[Lirefighter]

You are wrong,
you’ve been proven wrong,
you are totally wrong
you could not be more wrong


You are just posting the book of climate myths that are spread all over the internet by climate change deniers.

You haven't proven anything wrong.
You are just parroting what you've been told.

 

[MNW67]

Also, why has a specific 29 years been taken as a base?

I don't know. It is probably for optics rather than any technical reason. Maybe just to put it somewhere in the middle of the range.

Ah, the classic hockey stick.

I believe there is a very high probability it is true.

 

[Lirefighter]

Quite the opposite over the past 25 million years the planet has alternated between glacial–interglacial periods. If it were not for our green house gas contribution the planet would be slowly cooling, possibly heading towards another ice age in a 100,000 years time

As we all know the planet has warmer and cooler periods, but these generally take several hundred thousand years to come and go - what we are achieving with our complete and utter bolluxs is happening in decades - that is why there is nothing natural about it at all

There's no way of knowing whether or not the climate changed by a few °C in a matter of decades 100,000 yrs ago, never mind 10million years ago.
We only have accurate data for about 100 years.