Holy Smoke

[King Billy]

It has always been legal in the UK since the 18th centurary and doesnt involve criminal gangs running the Breweries. There is a lot of legislation for it through licensing imposing age limits and restrictions etc.

That does not answer morqthana's question. It's just a potted history of alcohol brewing.
He asked:

What actual justification is there for the sale and the use of alcohol to be legal?

Try to answer the question asked, not the one that you think was asked.

The same does not apply to recreational drug taking and would not be easily regulated at this point in its production and distribution network as it stands.

If alcohol can be regulated through legislation, why do you think recreational drugs couldn't be regulated?
Surely a lot of the regulation would be just extended to cover recreational drugs.
In some instances it already is, e.g. drink/drug driving.

 

[King Billy]

Morals and ethics are also part of it, similar to prostitution being illegal. Maybe you would like to see the UK become more like Amsterdam, I have no use for either vices.

Prostitution isn't illegal.
Wrong again.

 

[King Billy]

What makes alcohol a more moral drug than cannabis?

I'd like to see policy driven by rationality and intelligence, based on evidence and facts, that sort of thing.

Don't forget the pigeons and the pig wrestling.
Some people's comments are so imbecilic it's easy to get drawn in.

 

[Dec27]

Did you read that article yet?
Or are you still scared of it?

What article ?

 

[King Billy]

What article ?

Sorry, Pete, I thought I was talking to Dec27 for a minute.

 

[Dec27]

Sorry, Pete, I thought I was talking to Dec27 for a minute.

You’ve lost the plot now. Hopefully you know what you mean.

That’s two of you at least….

 

[King Billy]

You’ve lost the plot now. Hopefully you know what you mean.

Your reply was in the same mould as a typical Pete's reply.
Has to say something but nothing to say.

What is this screenshot supposed to show?
Can't you quote the posts so we can put it all in context? Or is it some concoction of several screenshots that you've captured and trying to make a case, like you did yesterday when I asked you for an excerpt from Odds' OP, and you quoted something totally irrelevant?

That’s two of you at least….View attachment 409802

 

[Brigadier]

Drugs are illegal for a reason,

The reason being?

 

[JohnD]

The reason being?

It puts money into the pockets of organised crime

And poor quality, adulterated products damage the health and lives of consumers.

Uncontrolled use promotes addiction, poverty and crime.

I don't know why Highwayman considers those to be benefits or justifications for Prohibition.

 

[Highway Man]

The reason being?

Uncontrolled methods of production for one, unless you fancy sticking a needle in your arm and hoping for pot luck, or popping a tablet in your mouth and digesting an unknown substance. Danger to health and a danger to others around you who are not taking drugs.. Giving you a sense of well being and confidence that you put yourself in danger. Crime goes hand in hand with drugs. Not for me thanks.

 

[Highway Man]

It puts money into the pockets of organised crime

And poor quality, adulterated products damage the health and lives of consumers.

Uncontrolled use promotes addiction, poverty and crime.

I don't know why Highwayman considers those to be benefits or justifications for Prohibition.

Those that choose that lifestyle are the ones that pay the penalty not those that choose a normal life style

 

[morqthana]

Uncontrolled methods of production for one,

Same as illegally produced alcohol.

unless you fancy sticking a needle in your arm and hoping for pot luck, or popping a tablet in your mouth and digesting an unknown substance.

Ever thought about the fact that if the sale of a drug was legal and regulated, production, strength, and formulation could be too?

Danger to health

Over 10 thousand alcohol-specific deaths across the UK in 2023.

Worldwide:

and a danger to others around you who are not taking drugs..

In the United States, DUI and alcohol-related collisions produce an estimated $45 billion in damages every year.
In Europe, about 25% of all road fatalities are alcohol-related

Giving you a sense of well being and confidence that you put yourself in danger.

Never a problem with alcohol, is it.

Crime goes hand in hand with drugs.

Bound to if you leave criminals to run the supply chains.

Not for me thanks.

Legalisation doesn't mean compulsion.

Do you smoke?

Do you know anybody who doesn't drink?

Has it only been its legal status which has stopped you using heroin?

 

[Odds]

The reason being?

It's complicated:

The Great Hemp Wars - How powerful industries took down nature's most useful plant. A short introduction into the skullduggery that took place after Prohibition of alcohol ended and the War on Drugs began. Look into characters like Harry Anslinger; Randolph Hearst, and DuPont Chemical Industry who played a major role in demonising cannabis.

*fun fact # 42 - they had to repeal the ban on hemp when WWII started to meet demand for rope for the American Navy. After the war, it went back on the list.

 

[Dec27]

Your reply was in the same mould as a typical Pete's reply.
Has to say something but nothing to say.

What is this screenshot supposed to show?
Can't you quote the posts so we can put it all in context? Or is it some concoction of several screenshots that you've captured and trying to make a case, like you did yesterday when I asked you for an excerpt from Odds' OP, and you quoted something totally irrelevant?

Just pointing out how mixed up you and your posts are.

For the record; I’m not Pete.