Has anyone any sympathy?

[blup]

Zźzzzzz....America doesn't really have the death penalty

Yes, that's the sound the Chair makes.

 

[securespark]

Zźzzzzz....America doesn't really have the death penalty

Yes they do. 27 states do.

 

[Highway Man]

Yes they do. 27 states do.

Do they still use it though?

 

[SPLINE]

America cannot be held as an example of the death penalty not working, because the death sentence is rarely passed, and when it is, many prisoners then spend forever on death row.

The death penalty, when the threat of it is credible, is highly effective. Islam kills people who criticise islam - and this has caused entire nations...nay, continents, to bend to its will.

 

[morqthana]

No it isn't. 1 in 4 are on the PNC.

Based on the different data you presented:
42.95M people (in your data set) and 12.6M on the PNC (of the same set).

12.6 / 42.95 = (not 1:4)

Indeed, not 1 in 4.

An even higher perentage than IT Minion presented - 12.6 / 42.95 is 1 in 3.4.

 

[IT Minion]

Indeed, not 1 in 4.

An even higher perentage than IT Minion presented - 12.6 / 42.95 is 1 in 3.4.

You're doing this on purpose now. All numbers are millions unless otherwise stated.

12.6 is the number of people on the PNC of working age plus: pensioners, possibly the recently deceased ( I don't think they get deleted for 25 years, but I'm open to correction). Foreign tourists, people who've emigrated, people who've been deported, etc. etc. etc. in short: it's everyone except the under 16s.

42.95 is the number of only working age people in the UK, roughly, my stats had 42.4 Million but that can be due to dates and rounding.

If you want to use 12.6 PNC identities you have to use 55.2 which is the corresponding population according to the ministry of justice statistics I linked to earlier.

If you want to use 42.4 then the total number of PNC nominal records is only 9.4. If you exclude pensioners from one part of it you have to exclude them from the other part too.

Using the number of identities for all adults and then dividing by only working age adults is going to give you the wrong answer. Pensioners are the most likely group to be on the system after all, blaming their entries on workers is unfair.

And again, this is convictions, cautions, no charge, pending charges or just entered into the computer for no obvious reason. These are people with a police record, but not necessarily a criminal record.

If you look through inumeratecycklists link you get the same sort of thing but the footnotes are worse so it's not as easy to work it out.

Now I'm putting you on ignore for a few days for blatantly trolling me.