Holy Smoke

[Highway Man]

Got it. So you don't object to recreational drugs that are of no benefit to anyone who doesnt need them for medical use but used to purely get high on.

Such as alcohol, caffeine and nicotine

But you object to things that are illegal.

So if cannabis was legalised, you would not object to it.

And if alcohol was made illegal, you would object to it.

That's easily dealt with.

OMG No John you havent got it. Ignore the use of legal stuff, paracetamol, caffein etc, these are legal, ignore alcohol too, that is legal. Stick to the facts, Cannabis is illegal so you cannot argue the point of it as "if it was legal" it isn't. Where is your argument for wanting to legalise illegal recreational drugs.

 

[Highway Man]

I will answer it for you as you are struggling with this. There actually isn't an argument for it other than people who use it want to legalise it hoping the price will come down if it was more regulated. You do not care less for the ciminal gangs making money over it any more than you couldn't care less if a plumber makes a few pounds on the side doing guvvies away from the tax man.

 

[JohnD]

Stick to the facts, Cannabis is illegal so you cannot argue the point of it as "if it was legal" it isn't.

And you know of no reason why some recreational drugs should be legal, with your approval, and some should be illegal, with your approval.

 

[JohnD]

I will answer it for you as you are struggling with this. There actually isn't an argument for it other than people who use it want to legalise it hoping the price will come down if it was more regulated. You do not care less for the ciminal gangs making money over it any more than you couldn't care less if a plumber makes a few pounds on the side doing guvvies away from the tax man.

You are wrong.

Organised crime would not longer profit from it.

It could be taxed

Public safety would be improved by controlling purity and strength

Sales could be regulated in licenced premises.

I don't know why you pretend you weren't told already

 

[Highway Man]

And you know of no reason why some recreational drugs should be legal, with your approval, and some should be illegal, with your approval.

I am in full agreeance with the law on the subject, my approval or non approval is irelevant. They are illegal to use for recreational purposes and are legal for medical use, that is how it is and that is how it should be.

 

[JohnD]

I am in full agreeance with the law on the subject, my approval or non approval is irelevant.

So when the law is changed, you will support the new law.

 

[Highway Man]

You are wrong.

Organised crime would not longer profit from it.

It could be taxed

Public safety would be improved by controlling purity and strength

Sales could be regulated in licenced premises.

I don't know why you pretend you weren't told already

Where is your proof of organised crime would not benefit from it? The Hells angels run the drugs in and out of Amsterdam so they are proffiting from it.
Public safety? Who is benefitting here then. Not the general public but only the law breakers who are taking it.

 

[Highway Man]

The ones who are using now are quite happy to see organised crime benefit from their habit, I doubt there are many users with morals or they wouldn't be buying it now.

 

[Highway Man]

You are wrong.

Organised crime would not longer profit from it.

It could be taxed

Sales could be regulated in licenced premises.

• The "Backdoor" Problem: While the front-door sale is tolerated, the supply (cultivation and transportation) to these shops remains illegal, often controlled by criminal networks.

 

[Brigadier]

Have you an argument for legalising the use of illegal recreational drugs for just getting high as a kite on? If so let us hear the reason.

John has already given you a number of reasons.
Regulated content, rather than an (un) lucky dip.
Taking the market away from the criminal suppliers.
There's two for you.

 

[Highway Man]

John has already given you a number of reasons.
Regulated content, rather than an (un) lucky dip.
Taking the market away from the criminal suppliers.
There's two for you.

Not reasons to legalise it at all. Where drugs have been tolerated as legal, there is still the criminal gangs behind it

 

[Highway Man]

So in conclusion to this, I think we can all agree that there is no argument to legalise illegal drugs for recreational use. Amazing how it takes someone like me to intervene and sort this out in a swift and sensible manner. One day I may become a mod on this site and one of the first things that I will do is to put a stop to all of this word twisting and to only deal in the facts. I will bring some credability to the GD.

 

[Brigadier]

only deal in the facts

When are you going to start?

 

[Highway Man]

When are you going to start?

Reported

 

[Odds]

Cannabis is not an effective treatment for common mental health conditions despite the global surge in patients using it for that purpose, a review has found. Researchers concluded there was “very little evidence for its efficacy” in treating anxiety, anorexia nervosa, psychotic disorders, post-traumatic stress disorder or opioid use disorder. Their review was prompted by the legalisation of cannabis as a treatment for both types of condition by countries including the US, the UK, Australia and Canada. the Guardian

There was some evidence that cannabinoids can reduce symptoms of cannabis use disorder, insomnia, tic or Tourette's syndrome, and autism spectrum disorder, but the quality of this evidence was generally low. Cannabinoids were associated with a greater risk of any adverse events but not of serious adverse events. Overall, there is a crucial need for more high-quality research. Given the scarcity of evidence, the routine use of cannabinoids for the treatment of mental disorders and SUDs is currently rarely justified. the Lancet

Prof Owen Bowden-Jones, registrar of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said of the Lancet research: “It is vital that patients are provided with accurate and transparent information about these products so that they can make informed decisions about their care and treatment.”