A religion history lesson needed

[JohnD]

you call this an attack, do you?

you didn't quote anything to support your anti-Catholic claims.

Why don't you obey Leviticus?

 

[breadnbutter]

If these 'things' are invisible, how come we can clearly see them?

it means the things we clearly see, i.e nature, birds,whales,tigers,lions,trees,flowers,fish,rivers,the stars,humans,insects,ect ect is evidence of things unseen,i.e Gods creative power.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

I am not going to persue this line of enquiry, although the direction is obvious.
Let us agree to disagree. Neither of us have any hope of convincing the other.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

it means the things we clearly see, i.e nature, birds,whales,tigers,lions,trees,flowers,fish,rivers,the stars,humans,insects,ect ect is evidence of things unseen,i.e Gods creative power.

Wrong.

Imagine you could build a working time machine, and you went back to the middle ages with a whole load of TV equipment, cameras, transmitters, recorders, generators etc, and set up a demo showing people things which happened in the past, or were happening now some distance away, that could all well be described by them as "evidence" of magic, or witchcraft. But as we all know, it would not be.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

but scripture says...

Remind us again who wrote that.

 

[JohnD]

it means the things we clearly see, i.e nature, birds,whales,tigers,lions,trees,flowers,fish,rivers,the stars,humans,insects,ect ect is evidence of things unseen

They are proof that Bertrand Russell's teapot exists, as I am sure you won't deny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot#Description

 

[ban-all-sheds]

 

[breadnbutter]

I am not going to persue this line of enquiry, although the direction is obvious.
Let us agree to disagree. Neither of us have any hope of convincing the other.

as I said, I am not here to convince, or convert or make you believe, I am just sharing what I believe, and know is true, each man must make is own mind up.

 

[breadnbutter]

Wrong.

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Imagine you could build a working time machine, and you went back to the middle ages with a whole load of TV equipment, cameras, transmitters, recorders, generators etc, and set up a demo showing people things which happened in the past, or were happening now some distance away, that could all well be described by them as "evidence" of magic, or witchcraft. But as we all know, it would not be.

its not wrong ,its simple truth.


they may do at first,they would be astonished and be thinking your an alien from another planet lol, until they realise you cannot make a tv, or generator by magic,or witch craft,and discover it was made by mans hands. then it would be evidence of mans advancement in technology and knowledge.

by the way, they were just as intelligent then, as we are now, maybe even more, only difference is time it takes for us to develop ,and invent and discover.

but they know that's something is behind it, that made the tv, generator, even if they mistakingly think its by magic.

 

[mrcrow]

Yeah - really faithful to the original texts, wasn't it.

You mean Greek...

Other versions are similar....have a look
I use the NKJV
What version do you favour for your bible studies
Cheers my friend
Geof

 

[breadnbutter]

They are proof that Bertrand Russell's teapot exists, as I am sure you won't deny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot#Description

who made the elements,materials for the teapot.

the bible says, Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

in other words your teapot could not exist ,whithout the materials, that were made by God.

therefore weather there is a teapot in space orbiting or not, it has no benefit,to believe it or not,its inert in respect to what we need.

but to believe in God,and to believe Christ died for our sins,and is risen, has a benefit of salvation, eternal life, peace, love, hope, truth, light, healing, power, prayer ect ect

but if Bertrand Russel wants a replacement teapot I am happy to buy one for him, I will even throw in a box of Yorkshire teabags.

 

[mrcrow]

who made the elements,materials for the teapot.

the bible says, Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

in other words your teapot could not exist ,whithout the materials, that were made by God.

therefore weather there is a teapot in space orbiting or not, it has no benefit,to believe it or not,its inert in respect to what we need.

but to believe in God,and to believe Christ died for our sins,and is risen, has a benefit of salvation, eternal life, peace, love, hope, truth, light, healing, power, prayer ect ect

but if Bertrand Russel wants a replacement teapot I am happy to buy one for him, I will even throw in a box of Yorkshire teabags.

Equally a cheap clay teapot is made from water and clay
So may a Ming vase

Remind us again who wrote that.

Mathew 4:4

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You mean Greek...

Not entirely.

But if you think that there have been no questionable translations of the original texts over the millennia then that is a delusion.

 

[mrcrow]

Not entirely.

But if you think that there have been no questionable translations of the original texts over the millennia then that is a delusion.

2 thessalonians 2:11 answers that

The Latin vulgate is in error

 

[EFLImpudence]

Why isn't every religious person a mormon?

Surely if god, Jesus and an angel appeared in 'person' just two hundred years ago - to an English speaking person - that must be more reliable, believable and followable than two thousand year old accounts - or fifteen hundred year old accounts from another branch.