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are these bodge job?

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by VickyBH, 10 Jul 2019.

  1. VickyBH

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    I had electrician coming to do a kitchen rewire as well as some other bits like moving switches, adding sockets in some rooms...etc.

    I am now concerned if the first fix they've done was a bodge job after learning & reading a lot about renovation from many resources.

    1. Wago connectors are left in the zone without enclosure, either under capping, behind stub & plasterboard, or buried under plaster.
    2. 25mm back boxes used for USB socket plates (instruction says 35mm back backs should be used)
    3. No CPC where new lighting is installed (although current lighting circuit has no CPC).
    4. Although some area has oval conduit or capping, some just have penny washer and screws to hold the cable on bare brick and to be plastered on.
    5. There will be cables underneath base unit behind kickboard in kitchen, not clipped on the wall.
    6. Part of cables feeding kitchen are places in the boxed up conduit (20cm x 20cm) where the communal radiator pipes are.

    I would really appreciate if I can get some opinion whether I should be worried and not have them coming back for remaining jobs. Thanks.
     
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  3. Risteard

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    Were they chosen solely on price?
     
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    I would be worried

    I would have them back just to return the money ( if already paid ) but NOT to do any remedial work.
     
  5. VickyBH

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    No, they were not the cheapest out of all quotes, they were chosen because they fit into times that I needed it done and also because they have very good review on mybuilders.com.
     
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    Oh dear o_O

    Online is not the way to get quality tradesmen, what you get is tradesmen with good reviews.

    The best way is local networking. Sign up to nextdoor, or better still ask in a local electrical merchants or if theres an extension being built near you -go in and ask the builder
     
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    Agree. MyBuilder etc. are pants. They also suggest low budget. A proper job will cost far more and they may not be instantly available.
     
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    I have paid 50% after the first fix although they claimed they should get more as they've done most of the hard work in chasing the brick walls. they say second fix will only take a day and they've spend 2-3 days for first fixes. How much refund would you say is fair for what they have done?


    They also have excellent and over 100+ reviews on checkatrade and some google reivews too. Word of mouth isn't reliable too in my experience too, as many of my friends don't have the knowledge to know if the jobs were done properly until a problem occurs much later on. If I didn't came across some articles and posts I would also recommend my electrician to my friends. Just some rants.....
     
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    I think I will start rectifying some of the job myself and tidying up first fix, I've got a feeling it's going to be difficult to find an electrician to take over second & final fix. I can replace 25mm back boxes and put up some enclosure on Wago boxes.

    However, my most and immediate concern is the Wago connectors ALREADY buried in plaster in kitchen because kitchen unit is scheduled to be put up next week. What's the real life implication of keeping them there, I am very reluctant to break the plastered wall unless it's the last resort.
     
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  11. bernardgreen

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    If the wiring is all new then there is no reason at all for junction boxes let alone junction boxes buried out of sight in plaster.

    Dampness from drying plaster causes copper to corrode. That corrosion will affect the "reliability" of the connections in a junction box.
     
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    Some fair points there.

    The problem with online sources is that the sites are paid for by the tradenen, that means the site is acting for them not the customer.

    For a tradesman, online lead generation is bad news, it often means lots of tradesnen chasing the same job, so pricing is too low.

    It is difficult to get good tradesmen, good ones are often booked up and cant be bothered quoting.
     
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    2/ is probably OK. 4 and 5 are definitely OK. So half your worries solved already
     
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    3/ is a definite no-no. There must be provision for of a cpc even if all your equipment is double insulated. The next person to occupy your premises may fit Class 1 equipment.
    6/ I would also say this is a no-no. Cables next to, or in close proximity to hot pipes is definitely not a good idea. If they have to go where they are they should be segregated from contact with the pipework for the entire length of the enclosure.
     
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    Not if the sockets won't fit into a box which is too small.
     
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    I said 'probably'.
     
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    Often a flat plate socket intended for a 35mm box can be fitted on a 25mm box with a bit of skill or patience, so I imagine this goes for USB sockets too.
     
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