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[EFLImpudence]

Which of these statements do you think is untrue?

4.

 

[JohnD]

which half?

"The objective is to loosen it enough to increase the number of deaths, but not so much that it causes public disquiet or loses votes."

 

[Ihavenojob]

so you agree that the statements are true.

Don't swerve liar, link to your statement that you gave, that the government want people to die.

 

[EFLImpudence]

which half?
"The objective is to loosen it enough to increase the number of deaths, but not so much that it causes public disquiet or loses votes."

You tell us why the government has a deliberate objective of increasing the number of deaths.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Do you have a link to corroborate this statement ?

So that's a no then.You can either give a link proving your statement, or admit it is a LIE.

Opinions are not lies.

Dictionary
opinion
noun
1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"that, in my opinion, is right"

2. a statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter.​

If you want to dispute an opinion, you need to enter a dialogue, not just denounce that opinion as a lie.
In entering a dialogue, you'll need to present your argument.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Opinions are not lies.

Dictionary
opinion
noun
1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"that, in my opinion, is right"

2. a statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter.​

If you want to dispute an opinion, you need to enter a dialogue, not just denounce that opinion as a lie.
In entering a dialogue, you'll need to present your argument.

Wow, something else you learnt today, the meaning of the word "opinion". Now try to learn something else, comprehension, where in Liar johns statement I quoted did the word opinion appear?

 

[JohnD]

You tell us why the government has a deliberate objective of increasing the number of deaths.

It wants to increase trade and profits, and get people back to work, paying taxes, and receiving less subsidies. The result will be that some of them, and their families, and people they contact, will become infected and die.

It is aware of this and will do it anyway. This is not an accident, it is a deliberate act.

it will try to control lockdown so that the number of deaths is not great enough to alarm the public. The measure of public disquiet will drive the amount that lockdown is loosened or tightened.

 

[EFLImpudence]

An unavoidable consequence of a necessary action is not an objective therefore 4 is not true.

 

[Ihavenojob]

It is aware of this and will do it anyway. This is not an accident, it is a deliberate act.

Just like allowing people to drive, people will die as a result, but they still allow it. If labour won the last election, you'd say Corbyn was fantastic even if he did the same as Boris.

 

[JP_]

Except for if you work there, and have to pay your mortgage, rent, or food bills with the resultant wages.

No different from pubs though, maybe apart from the ones that are outright owned by the landlord manager

 

[Brigadier]

No different from pubs though, maybe apart from the ones that are outright owned by the landlord manager

I didn't say they were ; we were talking about non - essential outlets, remember?

 

[JohnD]

This will, intentionally, increase the number of cases and deaths.

It's working.


https://www.ft.com/content/5dbd6a69-2ab9-46e8-b630-a0221e6eaa5b

"Since the beginning of July, the number of daily recorded cases of the virus has increased gradually back to levels last recorded in mid-June and on Thursday the UK recorded 1,522 new cases of Covid-19 over the latest 24-hour reporting period.

The government data showed the daily figure had increased by almost 500, up from 1,048 cases on Wednesday, and the highest number recorded since June 12.

The seven-day rolling average, which takes account of differences in daily reporting levels, stood at 1,155 on Thursday, up from 677 a month ago.

Meanwhile, the number of tests processed has risen from 144,787 on July 1 to 186,500 on Wednesday."

 

[EFLImpudence]

Now you have introduced and only mentioned cases. What about deaths which was your concern - 12 yesterday?


According to Worldometer the UK has carried out 16,273,209 tests which resulted in 330,368 cases - 1 in 49.

The increase in tests from 144,787 on July 1 to 186,500 on Wednesday (your numbers); an increase of 41,713; 1 in 49 of which equals 851, so doing better with 500.

As Trump says: if you test more, the cases will go up. Yes he's a genius.

 

[Ihavenojob]

It's working.


https://www.ft.com/content/5dbd6a69-2ab9-46e8-b630-a0221e6eaa5b

"Since the beginning of July, the number of daily recorded cases of the virus has increased gradually back to levels last recorded in mid-June and on Thursday the UK recorded 1,522 new cases of Covid-19 over the latest 24-hour reporting period.

The government data showed the daily figure had increased by almost 500, up from 1,048 cases on Wednesday, and the highest number recorded since June 12.

The seven-day rolling average, which takes account of differences in daily reporting levels, stood at 1,155 on Thursday, up from 677 a month ago.

Meanwhile, the number of tests processed has risen from 144,787 on July 1 to 186,500 on Wednesday."

JohnD, one of only a few people who rejoice in the deaths of others, just so he can feel smug, what a charmer.

 

[fillyboy]

I didn't say they were ; we were talking about non - essential outlets, remember?

I agree pubs should be the first to shut being non essential, but the knock on effect is thousands of redundancies at both pub and brewery level which will in turn create more poverty which will in turn cause more deaths. The economy needs to keep going.

Code Z59.5 is a much bigger killer than Covid.