Channel migrants face lifetime ban on returning to UK

[Notch7]

Meself and others have saying for a long time that the boat invaders ditch their documents, but yourself and others denied

Andy, I have never denied it.

Why they do it is unclear: it only delays their asylum claim.

 

[Notch7]

For all those thinking it's sorted. YYou might not like this .....



Throughout the plan the wording aims to limit rights to appeal and to make it harder for arriving migrants to make a claim to stay on.
Supporters say this brings much needed common sense to a system that has too many rights of appeal and delays to allowing ministers to act for the public.
But none of that can do away with the simple fact that the home secretary herself does not know if this plan can succeed. In a letter to MPs, she simultaneously says she believes the plan is workable but it has more than a 50% chance of failing in the courts.
What this means in practice is that her own lawyers have told her it could be torn to shreds if it is challenged as unfair and inhumane.
It is exceptionally rare for a minister to introduce a bill while admitting this possibility. And that in turn would leave MPs asking why they should vote for it in the first place.

Aside from the legal issue, you can’t deport people unless you have a return agreement in place.

And the Uk govt doesn’t have that (I think it may have a few, nowhere near enough)

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Andy, I have never denied it.

Why they do it is unclear: it only delays their asylum claim.

Don't be a plank all your life Notch.

They throw their documents away so they can pretend to be 14 years old and from Syria, when they're not.

 

[transam]

Well at least sunac is attempting to
Do some thing and come up with a plan

Perhaps he may have been better advised to dish out envelopes stuffed with cash to French plod in Calais

 

[ajohn]

cash to French plod in Calais

He has.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's enough of a plan to keep the gullible happy

 

[Deleted member 18243]

You voted for this - own it.

Tony Blair is the architect of the mass immigration / population replacement scheme in Britain. He started it long before Brexit and I didn't vote for it. I doubt that anyone who voted for him voted for "it" either.

 

[transam]

It's enough of a plan to keep the gullible happy

And your plan is ????

 

[carmanmemoranda]

A proper effective system of processing and returning those that don't qualify.

But you seem happy with the latest "plan"

 

[securespark]

One person from Syria I heard on the TV said that he would rather be imprisoned in the UK than a free man in France.

 

[Justin Passing]

French could do more if they wanted to.
Seize all unregistered boats https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/the-french-registration-of-your-pleasure-boat-49652

 

[transam]

French are not interested apart from getting rid of as many migrants as possible
It’s the
Blind eye
Deaf ear
Brown envelope policy

( scoundrels )

 

[transam]

If the french could get away with it they would empty there prisons and lunatic asylums disguise em as migrants and send them across the channel in rubber boats

 

[Koolpc]

I don’t need to move to another country just because you can’t accept facts.

I meant the ilegal immigrants trying to land on our beaches

 

[carmanmemoranda]

French could do more if they wanted to.
Seize all unregistered boats https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/the-french-registration-of-your-pleasure-boat-49652

If it was an EU thing I'm sure a lot of pressure could and would be applied.

But if you were France and people wanted to get to UK, where would you put your efforts? At those coming in, or those leaving.

Was always said that brexit wouldn't stop this issue. Lots thought (were told) it would