Climate Change

[JohnD]

1993

I wonder if Science has progressed at all in the last 30 years.

Perhaps new or additional information has come to light.

Perhaps studies have produced more accuracy.

Have you seen nothing since then?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

There were some great engines in vehicles, but from around 2017

Little earlier than that for me. 2017 is getting late. Few years on from then and car makers seem to be producing some real lemons. Not helped by the OTT emission controls fitted to them. I'm sticking to earlier stuff. KISS - Keep It Simple, Sweetheart.

 

[aveatry]

I wonder if Science has progressed at all in the last 30 years.

Perhaps new or additional information has come to light.

Perhaps studies have produced more accuracy.

Have you seen nothing since then?

I appreciate that sometimes post need to be cut down to get to the point you are replying to but with just quoting 1993 you didnt leave much to go on so here is the whole post

Higher resolution records were indicating considerably less than half a century for a climate warming further studies narrowed the time frame even further James White in nature July of 1993 found the new ice cor ice core results bring rapid climate change to our doorstep changes up to 10° centigrade in a couple of decades or perhaps in less than a decade appear possible the data now revealed that the climate was able to change a full 10°Centigrade in perhaps less than a decade
the ancient warming far outpaces what the world is currently experiencing keep this fact in mind when you read someone arguing that the current global warming rate is unprecedentedly fast
This is based on the results of ice cores -from peer reviewed scientific studies from trusted sources

So yes you do have a point the ice cores are still being studied - this particular one was from the GISP1 core drilled between 1979 to 1981 with the quoted results published in 1993 I am not sure if an updated study has been carried out on the core since then as they have 2 miles of core to study millimetre by millimetre.

 

[MNW67]

I wonder if Science has progressed at all in the last 30 years.

Perhaps new or additional information has come to light.

Perhaps studies have produced more accuracy.

Have you seen nothing since then?

The Younger Dryas event being referred to is well known. Temperatures really did drop very quickly, and then a few centuries later they rose very quickly

 

[aveatry]

But every single claim you put forward to claim man made climate change is exaggerated.......are all disproven.
For example you claimed that more co2 is good for the world, when that was disproven you tried to deny you said it.
You are a coward.

That because I did not say "more co2 is good for the world"

 

[JP_]

No lets just not be hypocrites. You virtue signal whist at the same time as believing its all man made yet are happy to contribute to it.

Why do you think i believe it's all man made? That's yet another made up claim

I'm probably I've of the least traveled people here, for what is worth. I think 4 flights in 20 years.

But if you want to think it's ok to burn all the fossil fuels cos somebody you've never met had been abroad on holiday a few times, them that's your opinion. But didn't make crap up about other people to try to justify that. Maybe instead make a rational argument for it?

 

[aveatry]

Richard Tice and Reform are constantly pushing out climate change misinformation and calling net zero a scam.

But Aveatry claims to not be a Reform supporter.....even he fully supports all their lies

Poor Aveatry, little coward

Think you will find its the other way around - Tice agrees with me

 

[aveatry]

It was the same with COVID claims, all doctors and scientists are lying, it is a scam across the world just to give (mostly a few American big pharma companies) more money.

Instead of, we'll just giving them more money without inventing COVID.

It is classic conspiracy theory nonsense, nothing more, nothing less.

Do try to keep on the subject - Climate Change - go and start a covid one if you like.

 

[aveatry]

The Younger Dryas event being referred to is well known. Temperatures really did drop very quickly, and then a few centuries later they rose very quickly

No what that ice core study showed was that the temp changed by as much as 10degrees in less that 10 years

 

[aveatry]

Why do you think i believe it's all man made? That's yet another made up claim

Because I made a point of asking you if you believe in man made climate change and you said "yes of course" ---- here s reminder.

Do you believe in man made climate change yes or no

Yes, of course.

 

[MNW67]

No what that ice core study showed was that the temp changed by as much as 10degrees in less that 10 years

It took between ten and fifty years, I think. That is very quick. Which is what I said!

 

[aveatry]

It took between ten and fifty years, I think. That is very quick. Which is what I said!

The study I quoted showed 10 years

 

[MNW67]

The study I quoted showed 10 years

It seems to say "perhaps". The important point is that they dropped and rose very quickly. At least ten times faster than currently. Perhaps fifty times faster.

 

[aveatry]

It seems to say "perhaps". The important point is that they dropped and rose very quickly. At least ten times faster than currently. Perhaps fifty times faster.

Yes and that is the whole point when climate doomers say the current rise is "unprecedented" -they use that one a lot when it actually is and even more so than now.

 

[JP_]

Because I made a point of asking you if you believe in man made climate change and you said "yes of course" ---- here s reminder.

But you then took the leap to claim i believe it's ALL man made. That is the part of your lie I'm referring to.