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3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
This is the catch-all and would seem to apply to DIY work; though I have never heard of any DIyer being prosecuted for breaking this regulation.

Oh yes :!: there is a case :!:

Read Rhondda Landlord Prosecuted

He was done for breaking both Reg 3(1) and Reg 36(4).
 
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3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
This is the catch-all and would seem to apply to DIY work; though I have never heard of any DIyer being prosecuted for breaking this regulation.

Oh yes :!: there is a case :!:

Read Rhondda Landlord Prosecuted

He was done for breaking both Reg 3(1) and Reg 36(4).

That wasn't DIY.
Of course it is DIY work. Just because he did not do the work in his own home does not mean it is not DIY.

Regulation 3(1) of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 states: "No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."

He wasn't as he left a leak.
Even if he did a perfect job and left no leaks, he would still not be "competent" as he is not Corgi registered.

Regulation 36 (4) states: “Every landlord shall ensure that any work in relation to a relevant gas fitting or any check of a gas appliance or flue is carried out by or by an employee of a member of a class of persons approved for the time being by the Health and Safety Executive.”

"or any check of a gas appliance or flue is carried out by or by an employee of a member of a class of persons approved for the time being by the Health and Safety Executive."

So, he never had a Landlord's certificate, as if he did, "any check of a gas appliance" would be by a CORGI man and he would be covered.
He would probably have got away with it if he had done the job properly and obtained a Landlord's Certificate from a Corgi man. But that does not alter the fact that he was doing illegal work in installing the boiler when he did not have the necessary accreditation.
 
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3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
This is the catch-all and would seem to apply to DIY work; though I have never heard of any DIyer being prosecuted for breaking this regulation.[/quote]

surely competent means qualified, previously qualified or had some sort of training and not just someone who thinks there good at diy?
 
D_Hailsham wrote;

"Even if he did a perfect job and left no leaks, he would still not be "competent" as he is not Corgi registered."


So what about the tradesmen who have passed their A.C.S. and specialist subjects who aren't corgi registered. They are obviously competent (or should be) but choose not to pay corgi. It should make no difference whatsoever. Being corgi registered does not automatically make you competent.
 
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Having a Corgi card is just a licence. That means in the eyes of the law you can legally work on gas appliances in other peoples houses.

Most jobs nowadays ,not just tradesmen, you need a licence of somesort.

Our problem is the price. Aswell as having to re-sit exams Corgi tell us we have to.
 
Whilst being competent he would still be contravening the Gas Safety Regs by not being a member of a class of persons recognised by the HSE (CORGI for the time being).
The point is anybody competent is unlikely to get caught and prosecuted.
 
So what about the tradesmen who have passed their A.C.S. and specialist subjects who aren't corgi registered. They are obviously competent (or should be) but choose not to pay corgi. It should make no difference whatsoever. Being corgi registered does not automatically make you competent.

The same thing could be said about a Solicitor who has passed all the exams. If they are not registered with the Solicitors Regulation Authority, they are not allowed to practice.

And what about Doctors, they do a five-seven year course and get loads of quals, but they still need to be registered with the General Medical Council (not the BMA, which is just a doctors' trade union) to practice as a doctor or work in the NHS.

In the case of gas work the Health and Safety Executive has been made the Enforcing Authority by The Health and Safety (Enforcing Authority) Regulations 1989 (SI 1989/1903). The HSE has decreed that only someone who is Corgi registered is legally permitted to do work on a gas appliance/fitting.
 
I thought you only had to be competent to work on gas. I am currently corgi registered with the firm i'm employed by, but if i ever go self employed being a member of corgi would'nt make one iota of difference to the way i do my job.
 
I thought you only had to be competent to work on gas. I am currently corgi registered with the firm i'm employed by, but if i ever go self employed being a member of corgi would'nt make one iota of difference to the way i do my job.

The point is you are only CORGI registered whilst working for your employer who pays to be a member of the HSE's representative. It shouldn't make any difference to how you work it is just law that you must be a member to work on gas etc
 
The same thing could be said about a Solicitor who has passed all the exams. If they are not registered with the Solicitors Regulation Authority, they are not allowed to practice.

Good analogy. You can represent yourself in court, Heather Mills did, but she can't be paid to represent others in court. Exactly the same with gas.

But! in court there is such a thing as a "McKenzie Friend". When someone is representing themselves in court, a McKenzie friend can sit beside the person and give advice, but not talk in court - and need not be qualified. A McKenzie friend can charge for services (most charge £50 per hour compared to £200 by lawyers)

A raw DIYer can do gas work and have a non-Corgi give advice and not do the work and charge.

And what about Doctors, they do a five-seven year course and get loads of quals, but they still need to be registered with the General Medical Council.

Corgi was based on medical and law.

In the case of gas work the Health and Safety Executive has been made the Enforcing Authority by The Health and Safety (Enforcing Authority) Regulations 1989 (SI 1989/1903). The HSE has decreed that only someone who is Corgi registered is legally permitted to do work on a gas appliance/fitting.

Yep. If you see an appling flue job and it was done by a DIYer, Corgi don't want to know, as they police their members only, or identify non-members doing paid work. They refer you to the HSE.
 
Like i say, Corgi has nowt to do with competence and all to do with making money. Like the F.M.B. look how many cowboys are members :confused:
 
Had to laugh at corgi sending out renewals in january how many people paid this and how much did they make on it. Mine will be done day before it is due. Not the money but the principle.
 

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