Do Britons deserve extra time off?

[securespark]

All that massive increase has not included a corresponding increase in tax income for the government, rather it has caused a massive drain on the revenues to pay for the free housing, free health care, free schooling, free everything to support all and sundry who manage to scramble across the channel in search of that pot of gold.

Where are the figures to back this up, woody?

 

[SirGalahad]

Oh dear. You know exactly who I mean.

I am specifically referring to people like my ex neighbour, fake disabled, free car, free house, free stay in prison for fraud, smokes, drinks, goes out lots. Doesn't work, but could work if it wasn't so easy for her not too.

But what is the size of this fraudulent behaviour? Because we see it and it is personal we place more weight on it. What about companies that use transfer pricing to avoid tax, people who register as non doms etc who benefit from what society has produced.

No one is disputing there is benefit fraud but without putting into context you are simply pushing a skewed narrative.

 

[JohnD]

Benefit fraud v tax evasion: Which costs more?

We all know the answer to that.

It's a funny thing that we live in a country that puts more time, effort and money chasing the little one that it does the big one.

I wonder which one the people who control our mass media do?

 

[JP_]

1.3 million people born in the UK live in other EU countries, but they are not immigrants, they're ex-pats and all continue to speak English, rather than learn the local language, so it's OK.

Are they sending their money home, or spending it on fast cars and fancy houses? Hmmmmm...

 

[^woody^]

Benefit fraud v tax evasion: Which costs more?

Which one means a 8 hour wait at the hospital
Which one means you might not even get ambulance to the hospital in the first place
Which one means you can't get to see your local doctor when you want to
Which one means you have to work longer and get less pension
Which one means your kids are in an over crowded class and they can't get the education they need because the teacher spends hours on translating services
Which one means your kids can't get into social housing but some randomer from Somalia can walk right on in there.
Which one means local council services are cut to the bone

Which one means that we have become a nation of benefit dossers unwilling to work because of the cushy life paid for by the workers

 

[^woody^]

Where are the figures to back this up, woody?

Try the ONS

 

[sodthisforfun]

.

 

[SirGalahad]

Which one means a 8 hour wait at the hospital
Which one means you might not even get ambulance to the hospital in the first place
Which one means you can't get to see your local doctor when you want to
Which one means you have to work longer and get less pension
Which one means your kids are in an over crowded class and they can't get the education they need because the teacher spends hours on translating services
Which one means your kids can't get into social housing but some randomer from Somalia can walk right on in there.
Which one means local council services are cut to the bone

Which one means that we have become a nation of benefit dossers unwilling to work because of the cushy life paid for by the workers

Austerity and learn some economics and facts. As to hospital waits - who use the NHS the most? Over 65s and I am glad they do. Thats just one point.

Whats it like being so wrong and filled with hate.

 

[JohnD]

Which one means a 8 hour wait at the hospital
Which one means you might not even get ambulance to the hospital in the first place
Which one means you can't get to see your local doctor when you want to
Which one means you have to work longer and get less pension
Which one means your kids are in an over crowded class and they can't get the education they need because the teacher spends hours on translating services
Which one means your kids can't get into social housing but some randomer from Somalia can walk right on in there.
Which one means local council services are cut to the bone

Obviously, the one that costs us more.

So the answer to your list of questions is "Tax Evasion"

How much have you stashed in Panama, or the Virgin Islands?

 

[vinty]

poor old hawk piles up the falsities.

I wonder where he gets his misinformation from?

you just have to walk along any high street and look around to get all the information you need.

 

[Bodd]

NO

 

[noseall]

you just have to walk along any high street and look around to get all the information you need.

Shops and restaurants closing down?

 

[JP_]

According to this article, benefits overpayments (includes errors as well as fraud) is about £3 billion, whereas the tax shortfall is around £34 billion, with around £14bn in uncollected income tax, national insurance and capital gains tax and £13.1bn in uncollected VAT.

So, even if the figures are way out, tax evasion by hard working Brits is about 10 times greater than the benefits overpayments.

And, of course, the amount of benefit fraud / overpayments to immigrants is going to be a fraction of that £3 billion.

But, cracking down on tax evasion will seriously hurt the pockets of those politicians that also sit on the boards of multinational corporations, so it will never happen. It's much more convenient to blame immigrants for all these cuts.

 

[transam]

Tax evasion

He who is with out sin should cast the 1st stone doubt if there will be many takers in here




apart from me , plumbers and all those in the CC

 

[vinty]

Which one means a 8 hour wait at the hospital
Which one means you might not even get ambulance to the hospital in the first place
Which one means you can't get to see your local doctor when you want to
Which one means you have to work longer and get less pension
Which one means your kids are in an over crowded class and they can't get the education they need because the teacher spends hours on translating services
Which one means your kids can't get into social housing but some randomer from Somalia can walk right on in there.
Which one means local council services are cut to the bone

Which one means that we have become a nation of benefit dossers unwilling to work because of the cushy life paid for by the workers

Unemployment is supposed to be at a record low so therefor there should be less people claiming benefits and more people paying taxes which in turn should mean more revenue for the government to pay for better social services, yet this isn't happening, is it because of mass uncontrolled immigration the Tories and Labour have created a low wage business economy which means millions don't earn enough to pay any worthwhile amount of taxes to boost GDP which is required to pay for better services.