FLUELESS FIRES

[expertgasman]

9) FLUELESS FIRES- Do you fancy one?

Flueless fires have been discussed on this site a few times and the resounding advice given from Gas Installers is to AVOID at all costs!

These fires are attractive to consumers as they are 90% efficient as opposed others which are only about 70%. BUT....... As the products of combustion are not expelled up the chimney, these fires require a specific volume of ventilation to ensure their safe operation!

Flueless gas fires require correct installation and depend on :

A) Correct pipe sizing
B) Room Size
C) Ventilation
D) Gas rating checks
E) Gas Analyzing checks
F) Regular servicing

All existing Flueless fires MUST have an audible tone CO alarm installed in the same room to help to protect the occupants.

There have been a number of deaths attributed to these fires and you should bear this in mind if you are considering having one.

What utter nonsense! the only factually correct comment is the A-F list - which apply to ANY gas installation.!!

 

[multitask]

You CAN use steel wool for cleaning copper but a better job is to use the rough plastic stuff you get for scouring pans, which is available in decorators etc as it is inert and does not leave strands of steel to corrode. Don't use washing up liquid in push fits, it can degrade the rubber seal, use silicone lubricant,don't know if vasaline is any good or not?[/youtube]

 

[kevplumb]

ehh

 

[expertgasman]

ehh

uh?

 

[adlplumbing]

You CAN use steel wool for cleaning copper but a better job is to use the rough plastic stuff you get for scouring pans, which is available in decorators etc as it is inert and does not leave strands of steel to corrode. Don't use washing up liquid in push fits, it can degrade the rubber seal, use silicone lubricant,don't know if vasaline is any good or not?[/youtube]

i proably read this wrong aere u asking can u pushfit with gas
if so the answer is no
and if not then please rephase your comment
and you do have to use a flue gas anzser as part service and commsing the fire as its in mi and wqould not install one without co detector

 

[looneyfitter]

i dont understand this thread? is some of it missing?

 

[expertgasman]

If you are going to participate in a forum, it would be nice if you were to write in a mannner that is decipherable by normal people. Your post seems gibberish, and you seem to be responding to two people?

Re the FGA, I actually said tht the only valid comments were in the List , which includes the need for an FGA!

 

[PEDANTICVINDICTIVEMAN]

How did it get from a manufacturer with iso 9000 status getting away with sending out more than one faulty appliance scot free of a type I will never fit, yet the fitter got nailed to the wall, straight to cleaning copper pipe ?

 

[expertgasman]

Looney fitter, my last post wasn't aimed at you, as we were writing at the same time. I was reffering tp the other Loony, above you

 

[kevplumb]

Looney fitter, my last post wasn't aimed at you, as we were writing at the same time. I was reffering tp the other Loony, above you

then i would suggest if YOU are going to participate in a forum you read the whole thread

on account of its been split (badly)hence my comment as it now does not make sense

 

[kevplumb]

How did it get from a manufacturer with iso 9000 status getting away with sending out more than one faulty appliance scot free of a type I will never fit, yet the fitter got nailed to the wall, straight to cleaning copper pipe ?

plain brown envelopes john

 

[looneyfitter]

Looney fitter, my last post wasn't aimed at you, as we were writing at the same time. I was reffering tp the other Loony, above you

No problem... Had me thinking for a min there tho. Still dont understand this thread

 

[expertgasman]

Kevin, I wasn't referrring to you, either. I was commenting on adlplumbing's post. I stand by my original point, which was that the FAQ post was largely innacurate.

Having said that, it was odd that Focal Point and BnQ got away scot free, but the fitter DID do the job wrong. He should have read the list above.

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[glasgowgas]

b n q s parent company Kingfisher are VERY letigious

 

[PEDANTICVINDICTIVEMAN]

And have Focal point still got iso 9000 status, have they, have they Brian have they Brian, mmm, mmm, mmm (all said in Stewie's most annoying voice)