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General Election or another Referendum?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ellal, 23 Sep 2018.

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General Election or another Referendum?

  1. General Election

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  3. Neither

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  4. Both

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  1. ellal

    ellal

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    There are rumblings from both the tories and Labour about another general election, and possible backing from Labour for the people to have another say on the deal via a referendum.

    One or the other now seems to be on the cards, but what would it solve?

    If Labour back a referendum 'if their members want it', then surely that would have to be in their manifesto should an election be called...

    The tories want to hold on to power at all costs (that's how we got into this mess in the first place), and are maybe willing to throw their hat in the ring to save a deal that can't be done, or to go 'no-deal'...

    So which would you prefer to happen and why?

    And if there is an election, what use is a law that says an election will only happen every 5 years (so that politicians can't take advantage), when politicians take advantage anyway and ignore the law by ganging together to get the required 'override'!
     
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  3. transam

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    what law has been ignored ?
     
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    Some RW anti-EU billionaire has offered to set up a new party for RW anti-EU campaigners.

    Very sound plan.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Well if they want a 2nd ref

    Some one needs to pull there finger out as legislation needs to be passed in order to hold one

    It may help the cause if people over say 60 are not allowed to vote in it ?

    16 year olds get to vote in it ?

    May be any one who is not employed or is retired should not be allowed to vote ?
     
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    Article 50 can only be delayed with the agreement of the other .27 members afaik
     
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    Not particularly bothered tbh

    If another ref is called I will not be voting in it. :cool:
     
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    It needs to be unanimous. I wouldn't count on it. EU27 patience with a country that can't make up its mind, and can't agree with itself (never mind with anyone else) has worn very thin. The Conservative Party can't agree with the Conservative Party. Parliament can't agree with Parliament. The Cabinet can't agree with the Cabinet.
     
  9. ellal

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    I think that is correct.

    But if it is delayed we face the prospect of another election...

    For MEP's in May :)

    Why not?
     
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    Why not, exactly the range of people as before? If the result is brexit still, then whichever government knows for definite what the country wants.

    Or a bit concerned that too many now understand more ?
     
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    You mean the lies that remaoners have been peddling since?
     
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    Or, understanding that what they were told about leaving, wasn't quite right. Or indeed, anywhere near right?

    The realisation that they are going to be worse off, not better off as they were told. If they still have a job of course. That might focus a few minds ?
     
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    Based on lies.
    Loads of europhile economists have lined up to preach armageddon after Brexit and the remoaners stick to them like flies to schitt.
     
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    Ha great, we are back to this normal sticking point.

    Please specify any financial advantages of brexit? Just a few will do, even 1 would do for a starter.

    Don't worry about struggling. Nobody else has managed to answer that yet
     
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    The Mogg?
     
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    Someone rather close to Mayhem?
     
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