Horn of Africa drought

[thatbloke]

I live in a third world country

In Cornwall....I don't think so

How much is a pint in Cornwall these days? £5 ish?

 

[Susiejb]

I agree it is difficult in Cornwall...but I think we have gone off the subject......which was whether or not we should support charities supplying overseas relief.


I stand by my original comments, I believe we should show compassion.

 

[Alarm]

I stand by mine.
They dont give a toss about us, why should we about them?

 

[thatbloke]

I stand by mine.
They dont give a toss about us, why should we about them?

Because we can.
And how do you know wouldn't give a toss of the shoe were on the other foot? Perhaps they have more pressing things to worry about than a bunch of over fed , over privileged a holes rolling around in luxury throwing stupid statements around like yours? Perhaps they are more worried about keeping their children alive from day to day?

The way you talk about them it is almost as if you think you know them.

 

[Alarm]

Your obviously one of these do gooders who believe we owe others.
We owe ourselves.
Charity begins at home, in case you had forgotten.
In this case, sort our country out not p*ss our funds elsewhere. Where 99% of the time its into others pockets anyway.

 

[Susiejb]

I stand by mine.
They dont give a toss about us, why should we about them?

You obviously have no understanding of the word compassion.....I hope you never have to look into the eyes of a mother holding her dying child and then still 'not give a toss'

 

[Alarm]

I stand by mine.
They dont give a toss about us, why should we about them?

You obviously have no understanding of the word compassion.....I hope you never have to look into the eyes of a mother holding her dying child and then still 'not give a toss'

You look into the eyes of a pensioner here dying because a council paid warden did not use the master key and check on her.
You look into the homeless mental health patients sleeping in plastic bags in your back alley.
You look deep into yourself and ask why you care about some persons thousands of miles away when we need the help here.

Can you manage that?

 

[Susiejb]

Yes I will answer that,

I don't like to see bad things happening to anyone, but I think in circumstances such as you describe it is more cuts in services that cause the problems stated, it really is totally different.
I am not saying that there are not loads of excellent good causes that need help here. Speaking personally (which of course is all that I can do) in my own small way I do support charities here in our own country, but this doesn't stop me also supporting causes overseas. We are all part of the human race when all is said and done.

 

[thatbloke]

I stand by mine.
They dont give a toss about us, why should we about them?

You obviously have no understanding of the word compassion.....I hope you never have to look into the eyes of a mother holding her dying child and then still 'not give a toss'

You look into the eyes of a pensioner here dying because a council paid warden did not use the master key and check on her.
You look into the homeless mental health patients sleeping in plastic bags in your back alley.
You look deep into yourself and ask why you care about some persons thousands of miles away when we need the help here.

Can you manage that?

All of these people have access to clean water and food and medical help should they need it.
I hear what you are saying but it still doesnt change the fact that someone needs our help and we can help them, so we should.
I dont see my self as a ''dogooder'' but i'd rather that than be seen as an arse hole.

 

[joinerjohn]

What gets me though, is the fact that charities are pleading with us for donations etc , when the government is giving away millions of our money to foreign countries, without any of us having a say about which countries the foreign aid should go to. They give it to countries that have nuclear arms, a space program, modern warfare technology, etc. In addition to our money already given away, we find the country lumbered with European debts and bailouts. Personally, I'd like to give Europe the boot and see foreign aid all but stopped. Next time there's a crisis in Africa, I'd like to see the government send over a years supply of Durex, instead of any monetary aid.

 

[thatbloke]

What gets me though, is the fact that charities are pleading with us for donations etc , when the government is giving away millions of our money to foreign countries, without any of us having a say about which countries the foreign aid should go to. They give it to countries that have nuclear arms, a space program, modern warfare technology, etc. In addition to our money already given away, we find the country lumbered with European debts and bailouts. Personally, I'd like to give Europe the boot and see foreign aid all but stopped. Next time there's a crisis in Africa, I'd like to see the government send over a years supply of Durex, instead of any monetary aid.

Come on John , our country only gives aid and bail outs to countries that it has some kind of connection with , such as trade etc etc.
Do you really think the UK just hands out billions for no reason or gain?

 

[joinerjohn]

All of these people have access to clean water and food and medical help should they need it.

But,,,, How many mentally ill people on the streets of UK PLC seek medical attention when they most need it? How many actually get the medical help they desperately need?.

 

[Norcon]

Giving money to charities is easy what ever small amount you can afford and admirable. Its just a shame so much is eaten up by administration and siphoned off in foreign lands by corrupt officials to buy guns,drugs etc.

If you want to really help then spend a year in Africa helping directly with a charity organisation. Then 100% of your effort is utilised.
Those are the people I really admire.
I'd never do it though as I'm too selfish and I'd be scared of what I might see out there. Also being at the end of an ak47 before I know what its like and the thought of a kid holding one is even more scary.

 

[kevindgas]

No body is forcing you to give to charity , and I am sure Lenny Henry has given more to charity than you ever will in your three lifetimes.
Large business's do donate to charity as do people who are well off. People who are just about to lose their jobs usually do not donate money to charity, would you?

exactly Lenny probably gets more for 1 advert telling lies about premier inns £29 non existant rooms than some of us earn a year! so let him give.

if it was a donation for sterilisation then it would be worthwhile giving!!

 

[joinerjohn]

Come on John , our country only gives aid and bail outs to countries that it has some kind of connection with , such as trade etc etc.
Do you really think the UK just hands out billions for no reason or gain?

I most certainly do believe the government hand over our money without reason or gain. How many UK jobs have been lost to India over the years. They have a space program the UK can't even hope to match. They have industries the UK can't hope to match, yet we still give them millions in aid every year. Aid that's now ringfenced, even when our factories are closing and UK industry is just about on it's knees. What do we have to gain from giving countries such as India and Pakistan, all of this money?

Explain please.

PS,,,, The only connection I can see that the UK has with Pakistan is the fact that half the Pakistan population now own and live in properties in the UK.