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I do not understand why non-labour supporters get so agitated about this.

I've just taken a peek in the mirror and can confirm, for the avoidance of doubt, there were absolutely no signs of agitation whatsoever.
 
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Denial.

I bet the Corbynistas still believe in their socialist ideology as the future for Labour.
They will try and promote somebody in the image of Corbyn, like Rebecca Long Bailey or Laura Pidcock.......which will keep Labour in the wilderness

They never learn: socialism is not mainstrean, fight from the centre ground and compromise on what can be done.

At least Tom Watson had the forefight to bail out a few weeks ago,

It was a joke (as per his fence-sitting re: Brexit), but, on your main point, I concur.

It's not just Corbyn either ; that Lansman was in denial yesterday on the telly, as was McDonnell. Socialism has failed, so their approach is to become even more socialist.

What is truly sad is that the Tories are the most shambolic version of themselves in living memory, yet Labour couldn't mount an even quarter - decent opposition.
If I were one of the tory string - pullers, I'd take the p! ss, and give New Year's honours to Corbyn, McDonnell, Lansman, Milne, et al, for services to the Tory Party:ROFLMAO:
 
I do not understand why non-labour supporters get so agitated about this.

If the Labour party - which IS/WAS socialist - go more to the left because those in charge decide that and never get elected then so be it.

A party could promote the policies of Stalin or Hitler if it wanted to but it would presumably never get elected so it doesn't matter.
Saying you want the labour party to be in the centre is pointless. You have the Liberals for that

Having a discussion is not really 'getting agitated'.

What is the point of a party being ideologically hard left and making themselves non electable.

I am not saying I want the Labour party to be centre ground. What I am saying the Labour party should be pragmatic; sell themselves as centre left and moderate, get elected and then work on those core left wing values: like reducing poverty, reducing inequality.
Tony Blair introduced some left wing policies, like the minimum wage, he wasnt just neo liberal.

I disagree that I shouldnt be allowed to discuss the Labour party or care because Im not really a Labour supporter. The fact is, the UK has a 2 party system and both parties, one in power, one in opposition should shape policy.

A strong Labour opposition may have prevented the last 3 years of mess.
 
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New Year's honours to Corbyn, McDonnell, Lansman, Milne, et al, for services to the Tory Party

I cant help thinking Tory central office must have been howling with laughter everytime Labour announced another manifesto pledge.

I can imagine them saying: 'Hear we go lads, Labour have come up with super fast broadband, free for all -fill yer boots'
 
Yes, but what you are saying is you just want the Labour party to do what you want.

You might as well say the same about the Conservatives or the BNP.


I would vote for the Brexit party if they agreed with remaining in the EU.
 
Yes, but what you are saying is you just want the Labour party to do what you want.

You might as well say the same about the Conservatives or the BNP.


I would vote for the Brexit party if they agreed with remaining in the EU.

We weren't saying we wanted the Labour party to do anything, we were having a policy discussion, then you came along and accused us of being agitated.
Look EFL, if you carry on like this I'll see you outside at closing time.
 
Maybe - but there have been frequent posts in the past from Conservative supporters 'complaining' about the stance of Labour, when, from their point of view, the worse Labour are, the more they should like it.

Please let me know in future when I am allowed to comment.
 
I kind of liked Corbyn, bit idealistic and definitely unelectable, but anyone who supports private landlords living abroad being stripped of their propery for no recompense gets my vote.
 
Every dog has his day

Labour will come back eventually

Tis the way politics works

As for the SNP they will suffer eventually

They got 45% of the vote about the same % as in the Independance referendum
 
As for the SNP they will suffer eventually

They got 45% of the vote about the same % as in the Independance referendum
Only in Scotland. Very low percentage in the UK - 3.9%.

Liberals got three times the number of votes for a quarter the number of MPs
 
There was all this talk about labour in the 80s

When foot was the leader and they ended up. In the political wilderness for a good while

They will sort em. Selves out eventually

Johnson and his band had better remember that a lot of them voters have lent him there vote

Johnson Wil probably make a pigs arris of it any way :LOL:

Blame Margaret becket for this Labour caper she nominated corbyn for the leadership
 
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