London demos

[Notch7]

Professor Sunetra Gupta of Oxford, one of the three experts who drew up the document, warned the world had become ‘blinkered’ and ‘myopic’ in its approach.
The scientists advocate allowing ‘herd immunity’ to build up among those who can best fight off the virus.

Yeah Sunetra Gupta has been peddling nonsense for ages

"Neither of Gupta’s studies has been peer-reviewed nor published in a reputable scientific journal"

 

[mitch66]

Mate of mine is an ex GP. He's been contracted back by NHS to help with covid. He told me that in testing only 6% of people who thought they had suffered from covid actually had. They were all of course totally convinced they have had it.

 

[mitch66]

Is there an antibody test drop in or available at the GP? I don't think there is, am pretty sure he can't get one done. I wish we all could, be a good way to (presumably) go back to normal for some of us.

They still don't know how long any immunity would last after such a test, so not a lot of point. Kinda like get a negative test for having it on Monday morning, then getting in from work Monday night. By that time you may have caught it again.

 

[mitch66]

Hunch? For what it's worth, although i wasnt tested, a doctor diagnosed it.

But maybe there was something else in March causing breathlessness, extreme lethargy, headaches, body aches, loss of taste and smell, and diarrhea. And also just coincidence that i was exposed to several people who were tested positive. But yeah, i haven't got a certificate to prove it. Maybe it was a bad cold.... that is still affecting me 6 months later...

There's a lot of things that cause that. Like std flu. You forgot to mention sore dry throat and a cough. Key clue to covid.

 

[Brigadier]

Mate of mine is an ex GP. He's been contracted back by NHS to help with covid. He told me that in testing only 6% of people who thought they had suffered from covid actually had. They were all of course totally convinced they have had it.

Your anecdote is just that. An anecdote.

 

[Brigadier]

There's a lot of things that cause that. Like std flu. You forgot to mention sore dry throat and a cough. Key clue to covid.

Except for the (guesstimated) 2/3 who have the 'rona, yet display no symptoms at all.......

 

[mitch66]

Your anecdote is just that. An anecdote.

I've known him over 20 years. I think he's telling the truth.

 

[JP_]

There's a lot of things that cause that. Like std flu. You forgot to mention sore dry throat and a cough. Key clue to covid.

I did have a cough too, but wasn't too bad, although bad enough for a colleague to joke "you've got covid mate!". The only symptom I didn't have was a fever. Also had a flu jab, so unlikely I caught a strain of flu that is not doing the rounds.

I really don't understand why some people think others are not catching it. I'd better tell the doctor that he is wrong and misunderstood my symptoms, because somebody on a forum that never met me knows best.

As I said before, it could have been something else. But all the evidence says it was not something else.

 

[noseall]

I've been tested - twice. I still don't know whether I've had it or not.

 

[sodthisforfun]

I did have a cough too, but wasn't too bad, although bad enough for a colleague to joke "you've got covid mate!". The only symptom I didn't have was a fever. Also had a flu jab, so unlikely I caught a strain of flu that is not doing the rounds.

I really don't understand why some people think others are not catching it. I'd better tell the doctor that he is wrong and misunderstood my symptoms, because somebody on a forum that never met me knows best.

As I said before, it could have been something else. But all the evidence says it was not something else.

And, you said you still weren't right. Is feeling cruddy long term a thing for normal flu?

I've been tested - twice. I still don't know whether I've had it or not.

They prob wouldn't have operated if you had it! Do you have to isolate for 2 weeks now? My neighbour had to stay in 2 weeks either side of her recent op.

 

[noseall]

They prob wouldn't have operated if you had it!

Surely those that have recovered from Covid are the least risky?

Do you have to isolate for 2 weeks now? My neighbour had to stay in 2 weeks either side of her recent op.

No, just carry on as normal. The whole experience was a lot better than I thought, right from the swab thing to being collected after my op. Even had a nurse walk me down to the car.

First night at home was painful but expected.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Recovered - but was saying if you had it at the time - which is what the swabs were for?

 

[Notch7]

They still don't know how long any immunity would last after such a test, so not a lot of point. Kinda like get a negative test for having it on Monday morning, then getting in from work Monday night. By that time you may have caught it again.

I agree, like an MOT it's only proof at that moment.

the immunity period is unknown.

I think most scientists seem to think it lasts a while, maybe a few months....but there's no study that can prove it.

 

[sodthisforfun]

So, Filly's point about JonB being tested are moot then.

 

[JP_]

Is there an antibody test drop in or available at the GP? I don't think there is, am pretty sure he can't get one done. I wish we all could, be a good way to (presumably) go back to normal for some of us.

And why would I pay about £150 for a private anti-body test when:

1. they are not 100% accurate
2. nobody knows how long you will stay immune for
3. most importantly, I am isolating as much as possible anyway.

I won't change my behaviour because 3 months ago a test said I might have antibodies.

This discussion got me wondering why some people have such strange and radical views. This quote nicely sums it up:

"How does one begin to grapple with a perspective not grounded in science and facts, but rather based on a prepackaged ideology being delivered as part of a larger political agenda?" Nicholas Stark MD , I'm an MD in a Family of COVID Deniers