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[Ihavenojob]

It was a far better time, people were called all sorts of names and much of it was taken in jest, as it was usually meant. Mean minded do gooders decided to take offense, usually against the wishes of the "offended" which went on to cause more unrest than was already there.

 

[JohnD]

poor old transam has no idea what PC might mean, he's just shovelling out a long list of old man grumbles.

 

[blightymam]

An example of not being seen as being un-PC is the police and the social services of Rotherham who were too frightened to rock the boat of multiculturalism of the area. They were so keen in not appearing racist that hundreds and hundreds of girls were sexually abused for a long time.

Or there is on a lighter note, the renaming Christmas lights in Oxford as 'Winter light festival' as to not exclude other faiths at Christmas and apparently Stoke-on-trent called it 'Winterfest'.

 

[blightymam]

It was a far better time, people were called all sorts of names and much of it was taken in jest, as it was usually meant. Mean minded do gooders decided to take offense, usually against the wishes of the "offended" which went on to cause more unrest than was already there.

Absolutely agree. People are so offended so easily now, it's just crazy. To be offended is such a personal reaction, what one person feels offended by, another wouldn't give a toss. People really do need to get a grip and concentrate on what's actually important in the world.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Do you hanker for the days when you could call people "nignog" and "sambo" because of their colour?

That's quite a good example.

I take it that you think it is the actual words that are bad and not the users and the context in which they are used.

There is, of course, now a spurious distinction regarding the 'N' word. Supposedly when ending in 'a' and used by black people themselves it is alright but if ending in 'er' and used by white people it is not - no matter what the context.
This is obviously indistinguishable in speech depending on the accent of the user and forgets the original word is, itself, a mispronunciation by those in the Southern States of the French word 'Nigre' - people from some parts of Africa.

Sambo and Honky between friends is fine.

And find it funny?

Clearly not if the context is not funny.

It is the same with the first four letters of the name of a country which is virtually banned because horrible people chant it when doing horrible things.
I do, of course, mean 'Scot' - no, you know which it is.

 

[JohnD]

Or there is on a lighter note, the renaming Christmas lights in Oxford as 'Winter light festival' as to not exclude other faiths at Christmas and apparently Stoke-on-trent called it 'Winterfest'.

You mean the Christmas lights in Oxford, which are called, er, the "Oxford's Christmas Light Festival?"
http://www.oxfordschristmas.com/

Or Stoke-on-Trent's "Love Christmas" celebration?
http://www.stoke.gov.uk/ccm/portal/;jsessionid=aqFIeY97xK1_

you'll be telling me the one about Straight Bananas next.

 

[blightymam]

You mean the Christmas lights in Oxford, which are called, er, the "Oxford's Christmas Light Festival?"
http://www.oxfordschristmas.com/

Or Stoke-on-Trent's "Love Christmas" celebration?
http://www.stoke.gov.uk/ccm/portal/;jsessionid=aqFIeY97xK1_

you'll be telling me the one about Straight Bananas next.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...he-festival-its-name-for-fear-of-9923365.html

No comment on Rotherham then?

 

[JohnD]

Come on Blighty.

Instead of these distant FOAF stories, tell us:

"something you want to do, that you think you can't because of what you call Political Correctness"

 

[blightymam]

Come on Blighty.

Instead of these distant FOAF stories, tell us:

"something you want to do, that you think you can't because of what you call Political Correctness"

You asked for examples, I gave you some examples. So no comment on Rotherham then?

 

[blightymam]

Do you miss the days when builders would hang over scaffolding shouting obscene remarks at young girls?

By the way, I used to dislike this - until I went full-on punk. Then when I once walked past a bunch of builders and one shouted 'Errrr, yuck', I knew I must've looked REALLY bad!

 

[JohnD]

So your examples are that you want to hold public Christmas celebrations in Stoke on Trent and in Oxford, and you claim that you are prevented?

I don't believe you.

I don't even think you looked at the date of your newspaper clipping.

As for police and council employees in Rotherham and elsewhere, of course I don't believe that certain groups or individuals should be allowed to get away with crimes. Whether it's Cyril Smith or taxidrivers, whether it's Catholic priests or Jimmy Saville, whether its radio DJs or football scouts.

Do you?

No, it's a silly question, and it's just as silly when you ask it.

 

[Ihavenojob]

The problem is that the police spend so much time & money on historical cases that they cant see whats under their noses today. And when they do get informed about it , they're hamstrung by the PC (not plod) brigade.

 

[blightymam]

I take it that you think it is the actual words that are bad and not the users and the context in which they are used.

I think if a word is used and has been used most commonly as a derogatory term then that word carries weight. It stops being just a word that can depend on who says it as to what offense was meant. Doesn't really matter if that's right or not, it's just the way it is.
For me personally, it's just safer no to go there - I wouldn't want to **** people off for nothing!
Is that being PC, or just being a thoughtful person?

 

[blightymam]

So your examples are that you want to hold public Christmas celebrations in Stoke on Trent and in Oxford, and you claim that you are prevented?

I don't believe you.

I don't even think you looked at the date of your newspaper clipping.

As for police and council employees in Rotherham and elsewhere, of course I don't believe that certain groups or individuals should be allowed to get away with crimes. Whether it's Cyril Smith or taxidrivers, whether it's Catholic priests or Jimmy Saville, whether its radio DJs or football scouts.

Do you?

No, it's a silly question, and it's just as silly when you ask it.

Yes, I did look at the date. It was irrelevant.
Examples I gave were not mine, as you well know. They were to show examples of PC-madness, in the case of Rotherham, madness doesn't cover it.
Personally, well, as much as I like to enjoy all cultures and to be happy to see all cultures integrate in the UK, I wouldn't be pleased to see my local council stop turning on Christmas lights, and started turning on Winterfest lights purely as not to offend others of different faiths. Why? Because this is a Christian country. I wouldn't personally expect another non-Christian country to stop celebrating their religious festivals in their own way because there is a few Christians living there, that would be utter madness and no respect.
The stupid thing is, and why it's a good example of PC gone mad is that it's not even something other cultures or faiths have even asked for according to the bit of the article I read.. It's someone, some PC nutter in the council thinking they should be PC anyway, ignoring the fact that it's making an issue out of something that wasn't an issue.

As for Cyril Smith, Saville etc, were they ignored and allowed to continue because of their race? And yes, you're right, you asked a silly question.

 

[JohnD]

Examples I gave were not mine, as you well know.

Even though I'd specifically asked for "something you want to do, that you think you can't because of what you call Political Correctness"

And you claimed (falsely) that you'd given what I'd asked for.

I suppose you couldn't actually think of any real-life examples of things you were prevented from doing.

Yes, you asked a silly question.