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No deal catastrophic to farming

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Notch7, 17 Aug 2019.

  1. Notch7

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    An extract from NFU
    https://www.nfuonline.com/news/brex...l-brexit-is-catastrophic-for-british-farming/




    Export tariffs


    • Export tariffs could be imposed on the 60% of UK food, feed and drink that go to the EU, increasing export tariffs to an average of 27% on chicken, 46% on lamb, 65% on beef, and range from €172 to €1,494 per tonne in pork.
    A cut in access to farm inputs

    • It is likely that trade barriers will go up between the UK and EU which could limit the availability of many farm inputs such as veterinary medicines, fertilisers, plant protection products, machinery parts and animal feed. Furthermore, as the EU will no longer recognise UK organic certification bodies, exports of organic products to the EU would be severely curtailed
     
  2. EFLImpudence

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    I admire your persistence - but DP doesn't care.

    He is just like Breadandbutter; he just believes.
     
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  3. EddieM

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    @Notch7 why do you think the EU would impose such tariffs? On the face of it does that not seem protectionist?? Why, again on the face of it would you want to trade with a bully? I guess we could impose a 100% tariff on derivative clearing, that would screw the EU in 48 hours.

    The EU doesn't have to capacity to clear it all, if you're wondering...
     
  4. SirGalahad

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    Its not imposition its WTO.

    The EU cannot turn round on 1St November and say UK imports we will lower tariffs as then they have to do that for all countries.

    Only way around it is having a trade agreement.

    We champion WTO then turn around and blame the EU for following WTO.
     
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    To protect their member countries.

    Yes. ???

    It is necessary. Why do you use the term 'bully'? That's business.

    We could. Then I suppose they could increase their tariffs - endless spiral.
    Why do you want to screw the EU. Who is the bully, now?
    Are you thinking 100% is the maximum?
    Are you with Trump in thinking that the country on which tariffs are imposed (China) is the country who pays the tariffs?

    If you say so. Their business will be good for the UK, then.

    You all must get out of this jingoistic attitude that Europe is the enemy.
     
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    Tariffs do not apply to services.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Brexiteers havent a clue, its solipsism on a monumental scale.

    They cry WTO, when WTO is explained to them they cry they are being bullied. They are brought on a diet of jingoism.
     
  8. EddieM

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    Why would that matter??
     
  9. JohnD

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    There are three groups:

    1) Countries that are inside

    1) Countries that are outside but have negotiated, agreed and ratified an agreement (a "deal")

    3) The rest.


    No-dealers want UK to be in the third group.
    No-dealers have opted for tariffs and hard borders.
    In my view, a poor decision, but that's what they say they want.
     
  10. EddieM

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    Not at all, I think it's a daft idea, but... if you want to turn the screws extremely hard on the EU (unproductive) The simply refuse to clear their trades, would sadly be for the EU a case of we fax the terms over, you sign. Simple... it's an extremely bad idea BTW.
     
  11. Munroist

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    We are a net importer of food, our farmers don't need to export, we could buy it instead.! it is the EU that should worry if we slap some tarrifs on UK bound produce, they supply us far more than we supply them.
     
  12. EddieM

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    How very mature of the EU: Not.
     
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    You don't think that the UK also has

    1) places that are in the UK

    2) places that are not in the UK but we have an agreement with

    3) the rest

    Because of course we do.
    And will still have, after our resignation from the EU takes effect.

    *the agreements are currently the ones we negotiated as a part of the EU
     
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    Don't really understand that. Why would the EU slap a 60% tariff on a country they knew abided by it's standards? What's to stop the UK slapping a 60% tariff on all EU clearings?
     
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    Correct.Now That is F.A.C.T.
     
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